The ghost of Jim Morton Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 It ain't subsiding: <B> Rangers' SFA membership hopes hanging in the balance </B> By Chris McLaughlin Senior Football Reporter, BBC Scotland A stand-off over media rights and a possible stripping of titles threatens to scupper Rangers' hopes of Scottish Football Association membership. The SFA said on Friday that the new Rangers agreed to a transfer embargo in return for a license to play. BBC Scotland understands two obstacles remain before a deal can be agreed. Rangers want the Scottish Premier League to drop their investigation into dual contracts and the SPL want the SFL to hand over Rangers' media rights. There must be a five-way agreement between the SFA, SPL, Scottish Football League, old Rangers and new Rangers before any deal is ratified. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18941515 They have to stop messing about and simply get them "TELT". This is what's gonna happen. No negotiation, no ifs, no buts... And if they don't like it and accept it? Then a simple cheerio, shut the door on yer way out. Everyone is now sick to death of all this crap. Lets concentrate on the fitba One way or another, END IT NOW!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebbyDFC Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 They have to stop messing about and simply get them "TELT". This is what's gonna happen. No negotiation, no ifs, no buts... And if they don't like it and accept it? Then a simple cheerio, shut the door on yer way out. Everyone is now sick to death of all this crap. Lets concentrate on the fitba One way or another, END IT NOW!!!!!!! I'll get you TELT ya big fud. HIYA PAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Rourke Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think it's pretty obvious that there is a lot more to come out of this yet and for me the simple solution would be to suspend any application pending a full and thorough investigation into all things "Rangers." There are plenty decent, well run football clubs with an unblemished financial history that could take up the vacancy in the SFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 It ain't subsiding: <B> Rangers' SFA membership hopes hanging in the balance </B> By Chris McLaughlin Senior Football Reporter, BBC Scotland A stand-off over media rights and a possible stripping of titles threatens to scupper Rangers' hopes of Scottish Football Association membership. The SFA said on Friday that the new Rangers agreed to a transfer embargo in return for a license to play. BBC Scotland understands two obstacles remain before a deal can be agreed. Rangers want the Scottish Premier League to drop their investigation into dual contracts and the SPL want the SFL to hand over Rangers' media rights. There must be a five-way agreement between the SFA, SPL, Scottish Football League, old Rangers and new Rangers before any deal is ratified. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18941515 The longer this goes on the less likelihood of Newco competing in any league next season. Would that suit Greens' agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintj Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 One way or another, END IT NOW!!!!!!! This. Just kill them for good and be done with it. Job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Newco are acting as if they were the Managers in this long and sorry episode. They are using the confusion that exists between the useless fuds in charge of the different authorities to their advantage, playing one off against the other. A very old tactic " divide and conquer " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Whether Rangers are stripped of titles and honours won during the EBT years is irrelevant IMO. Everyone now knows they cheated, and so all their previous achievements are tainted anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Rourke Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Whether Rangers are stripped of titles and honours won during the EBT years is irrelevant IMO. Everyone now knows they cheated, and so all their previous achievements are tainted anyway. Their new shirts can't have any stars on it though surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Their new shirts can't have any stars on it though surely? It also means that Celtic would bypass them and become the new world record holders. Also think it lets Celtic increase the 9-in-a-row record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'll get you TELT ya big fud. HIYA PAL Hey Debbie, welcome back:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ally McCoist will always remain in my list of favourite former Saints but he really needs to get a grip - his latest outburst is humiliating and sounds like he is ready to walk away - or indeed be a front man for Sevco walking away. He's in a meeting 'negotaiting' sanctions. Can you imagine circumstances in whic Saints would be allowed to negotiate? We'd simply be 'telt' - to use a familiar word. PS Welcome back Chris Webster aka Webby DFC . I for one have missed you and Gort. All hail the might DFC back where they belong -teetering on the brink of administration- yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 With the stripping-of-titles thing, are there not two separate issues that are in danger of being jumbled into one? 1. Did Rangers FC (IA) rightfully and fairly win those trophies? If not they should be stripped of them. 2. Even if it's decided that Rangers FC (IA) did fairly win those trophies, and shouldn't be stripped of them, that doesn't mean Sevco won those trophes. Sevco are not Rangers, so should not be allowed to display those trophies, have stars on their club crest, display the trophies at Ibrox or do anything else that implies the history is theirs. The attempts to blur these two very different issues into one so that we all end up believing Sevco are Rangers seem to be well under way. Are Sevco to be allowed to start their Third Division campaign using the name, club badge and kit of Rangers, with no questions asked?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The SFA have to end this farce within the next 24 hours, Scottish football cannot be continually made to look ridiculous by Sevco and Sevco employees such as McCoist. They should be given a 12 noon deadline tomorrow to agree to all the conditions needed to receive a licence or else they will not be granted one for this season at least. They are the side setting the agenda as far as I can see, the SFA should have the balls to stand up to their threats and demands. This has went on far..far too long. Quite simply, if they want the titles, then they can also have the debts. All 140 million pounds sterling of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The SFA have to end this farce within the next 24 hours, Scottish football cannot be continually made to look ridiculous by Sevco and Sevco employees such as McCoist. They should be given a 12 noon deadline tomorrow to agree to all the conditions needed to receive a licence or else they will not be granted one for this season at least. They are the side setting the agenda as far as I can see, the SFA should have the balls to stand up to their threats and demands. This has went on far..far too long. Quite simply, if they want the titles, then they can also have the debts. All 140 million pounds sterling of them. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfulsaint Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Fascinating piece of detail form Rev Stuart Campbell's 'wings over scotland' blog: <i> In the debate over whether the SPL buys the broadcast rights to SFL games featuring Rangers, we’ve just spotted a rather interesting quirk. Sevco Scotland Limited was accepted to the SFL as an Associate Member, and will not be eligible for full Member status for four years. Rule 19 of the SFL Constitution says: “An Associate Member shall have no financial interest in the assets of the League and shall not be accorded any voting rights.” We assume “the assets of the League” include its media rights. Rule 19 would seem to suggest that if the SFL does want to sell “Rangers” games to the SPL – or indeed to anyone else – not only will the newco not be entitled to a vote on the matter, but it won’t be entitled to any of the money either. </i> http://wingsland.podgamer.com/a-thing-we-just-noticed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul N Shark Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The best Mc Coist moment for me at Saints was when he left and the club got a good few bob for the arrogant t***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Maybe we should ask Rangers what would be suitable to them? The old firm are like the spoilt twins from hell. Even SFA Referees pick on the other twin. It was hilarious when I heard someone on the radio say Rangers have won more trophies than any other club in the world and if they lose a few trophies because of their own illegel activities then Celtic will have more trophies than any other club in the world. That's an embarrassment to Scotland and nothing to feel proud about. It just clarifies the duopoly situation and the weakness of a competitive sports business. If you concentrate your economy or industry on one or two products and one goes wrong the whole economy suffers disproportionately e.g. the potato. Monopolies always fail in the long run for customers. The diference between oldco and sevco, whether they are Rangers holding on to trophies or a newco on the scene hoping to play in Scottish football is becoming blurred. The trophies belong to the oldco and that club is no more whether they hold on to these trophies or not. If you receive an unfair power advantage in any sport you lose the winner's medal/trophy e.g. drugs in the Olympics. Maybe we should ask Rangers if that would be suitable to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The best Mc Coist moment for me at Saints was when he left and the club got a good few bob for the arrogant t***. Yeah I remember he left for around £400,000 to Sunderland I seen him a couple of times at Roker Park but they played him in midfield proper rather than the link to the forward, in our case John Brogan. OK maybe he is coming across badly and he's not that talented optimistic happy striker we had back then but being a football manager when your club's in this state and in particular at a club like Rangers/Sevco must be extreme and I don't think he should be being put up front as much as he is especially as the whole thing is messy and legally/financially complex and those that committed the crimes are all silent and the people around him now are not as clear as they should be. He's definitely being led wrongly at times such as when he made what many thought were threats towards SFA tribunal members and wanting to know their identities which many also say he knew. He's being advised or encouraged to play to his galleries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Apologies if i've missed the following posted elsewhere but, Newco have employed disgraced football agent Paul Stretford. He was banned for 18 months for mis-dealings and fined £300,000. Birds of a feather, anyone.:laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Apologies if i've missed the following posted elsewhere but, Newco have employed disgraced football agent Paul Stretford. He was banned for 18 months for mis-dealings and fined £300,000. Birds of a feather, anyone.:laugh: He is back as Rooneys agent now though. I notice aswell that Redknapp called him in as his agent during negotiations over his new contract, on the grounds that he was a tough negotiator., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Maybe we should ask Rangers what would be suitable to them? The old firm are like the spoilt twins from hell. Even SFA Referees pick on the other twin. It was hilarious when I heard someone on the radio say Rangers have won more trophies than any other club in the world and if they lose a few trophies because of their own illegel activities then Celtic will have more trophies than any other club in the world. That's an embarrassment to Scotland and nothing to feel proud about. It just clarifies the duopoly situation and the weakness of a competitive sports business. If you concentrate your economy or industry on one or two products and one goes wrong the whole economy suffers disproportionately e.g. the potato. Monopolies always fail in the long run for customers. The diference between oldco and sevco, whether they are Rangers holding on to trophies or a newco on the scene hoping to play in Scottish football is becoming blurred. The trophies belong to the oldco and that club is no more whether they hold on to these trophies or not. If you receive an unfair power advantage in any sport you lose the winner's medal/trophy e.g. drugs in the Olympics. Maybe we should ask Rangers if that would be suitable to them? You certainly can't peddle this pish anymore as the old *** is dead, so the new *** can't be deemed as old, and yet again you bring Celtic into this when its nothing to do with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 You certainly can't peddle this pish anymore as the old *** is dead, so the new *** can't be deemed as old, and yet again you bring Celtic into this when its nothing to do with them the former old firm are / were the spoilt twins from hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 You certainly can't peddle this pish anymore as the old *** is dead, so the new *** can't be deemed as old, and yet again you bring Celtic into this when its nothing to do with them Old may be wrong, maybe Ancient is better. The mindset is still there it's just that one twin has been kept back 3 years for misbehaviour but they're refusing to give up their stolen loot. I'm sure the other twins will take a tantrum soon. Back to the Ibrox affair if they still own it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 the former old firm are / were the spoilt twins from hell. braw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Openshaw Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Old may be wrong, maybe Ancient is better. The mindset is still there it's just that one twin has been kept back 3 years for misbehaviour but they're refusing to give up their stolen loot. I'm sure the other twins will take a tantrum soon. Back to the Ibrox affair if they still own it. what a lot of shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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