St. Paddy Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Am I missing something here? a. We are not allowed to drink during matches, because 25 odd years ago there was trouble at matches, fueled by alcohol? b. the vast majority of people who were involved with the trouble bought and consumed their alcohol before the match c. people can still consume alcohol prior to matches. If knobends want to cause trouble, they will cause trouble regardless of where they buy or consume alcohol. Do I feel the need to have a pint during a match? not necessarily. I can spend two hours in the cinema with out a beer. if beer was available at matches would I have one? possibly, depends on the quality of beer, whether I was driving etc. would I choose to go to more games if beer was available? no, probably not. Do I believe alcohol should be available? yes, but I also believe the a-holes acting like a-holes will abuse it, and have and will spoil it for the rest of us. Not happy with the ban, I think it punishes the innocent, but I dont think lifting it will be the panacea some think it will, re atmosphere and crowds. Kilgour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Am I missing something here? a. We are not allowed to drink during matches, because 25 odd years ago there was trouble at matches, fueled by alcohol? b. the vast majority of people who were involved with the trouble bought and consumed their alcohol before the match c. people can still consume alcohol prior to matches. If knobends want to cause trouble, they will cause trouble regardless of where they buy or consume alcohol. Do I feel the need to have a pint during a match? not necessarily. I can spend two hours in the cinema with out a beer. if beer was available at matches would I have one? possibly, depends on the quality of beer, whether I was driving etc. would I choose to go to more games if beer was available? no, probably not. Do I believe alcohol should be available? yes, but I also believe the a-holes acting like a-holes will abuse it, and have and will spoil it for the rest of us. Not happy with the ban, I think it punishes the innocent, but I dont think lifting it will be the panacea some think it will, re atmosphere and crowds. There is no doubt alcohol was a factor in the trouble at games in the 80's and 90's, but society and football crowds were different then as well. I'm not particularly bothered whether I can drink at football or not (I drive to most games anyway), but think people should have the choice. The only problem is that the odd drunkard could lead to more confrontation with the stewards when they try to eject said drunk.....with stories of "I wasn't that bad" etc etc causing more fractions with the stewards lmsaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Geez, surprised there's not a St Johnstone Quakers Supporters club after reading this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYellowBox Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Am I missing something here? a. We are not allowed to drink during matches, because 25 odd years ago there was trouble at matches, fueled by alcohol? b. the vast majority of people who were involved with the trouble bought and consumed their alcohol before the match c. people can still consume alcohol prior to matches. If knobends want to cause trouble, they will cause trouble regardless of where they buy or consume alcohol. Do I feel the need to have a pint during a match? not necessarily. I can spend two hours in the cinema with out a beer. if beer was available at matches would I have one? possibly, depends on the quality of beer, whether I was driving etc. would I choose to go to more games if beer was available? no, probably not. Do I believe alcohol should be available? yes, but I also believe the a-holes acting like a-holes will abuse it, and have and will spoil it for the rest of us. Not happy with the ban, I think it punishes the innocent, but I dont think lifting it will be the panacea some think it will, re atmosphere and crowds. I agree that it alone won't encourage more fans to game, but would help as part of a wider push. Not that this would make saints loads, but say a couple of hundred pints sold each game plus crisps and extra pies etc might bring in an extra few quid. A driver might not have a pint, but his mates might. Better saints made the profit than an external pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I agree that it alone won't encourage more fans to game, but would help as part of a wider push. Not that this would make saints loads, but say a couple of hundred pints sold each game plus crisps and extra pies etc might bring in an extra few quid. A driver might not have a pint, but his mates might. Better saints made the profit than an external pub. As they are now doing by opening the Muirton Suite to all-comers.....much to some peoples dismay (there's been a thread about this!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 As a non drinker I am not taht interested in them bringing drink back to football. I also attend some matches at Murrayfield and drink is a massive money spinner for he SRU, but the difference between the sports is there for everyone to see, No degregation, fans openly mingling together and drinking together. Not something I think you woudl get at many football matches. On the down side at Murrayfied though is that there are a number of folk who treat the drink as an essential and consume i throughout the match ending up in a constant stream of folk going out to bars and the loo. If you are paying 70 quid to watch a game you can do without drink for 80 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carse of Gowrie Saint Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I was at the Sunderland V Arsenal game last week. Thousands of fans enjoyed a beer pre match, half time and after the game with no sign of any trouble. It's time to allow alcohol to be sold in Scottish grounds and It would also provide much needed revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Bru Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 separate legal system in Scotland but what was the main reason the Taylor Report came about? Hillsborough. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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THE LARK SAINT Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I took in a Man City game in 2008 and at the End of the Year went to see Coventry play Walsall Both grounds allowed the sale of Alcohol and a very relaxed atmosphere, despite not touching the stuff for nearly six months i am in favour of some sort of review to allow it at most games in Scotland. By the way anyone who thinks the Atmosphere at McD is bad, With the exception of a few rounds of" Blue Moon " When Man City were 3 up and a few We pockets of fans Singing the odd chant in the Coventry game the Atmosphere was poor from a singing point of view Edited February 17, 2013 by THE LARK SAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Football is trying to foster a family friendly image? Mind you .... you can make a bet? By fast food? Could end up being a 'right' hornets nest! Can football no just be about the football for a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Madrid Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I remember being in the away end at Liverpool a few years ago and they don't sell Alcohol to away fans, much to the disappointment of the Middlesbrough fans who were there that day. I am sure the clubs in Scotland would push for it, if they thought they could make a profit from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 You find people binging their drinks in the last hour before a game usually with shots of vodka,port or some kind of sours or such like.This would nt happen in the ground as they only sell beer or lager.I think it would reduce the amount of very drunk people at the football.It would also stop the away carry out brigade that usually hang about the Crieff Rd area and also the general mess left by them aswell. Dylan-Saints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yes, there were bars at Pittodrie for the Scotland v Tonga match, same as there were bars at McDiarmid park when Elton John played his gig there..... The price of beer/wine/spirits at Murrayfield is disgustingly high, and you get these plastic 'glasses' that always spill half the contents too so yuo wuold end up with another thread abuot being fleeced for a beer and complaining abuot the sticky flor, steps and walkways too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yes, there were bars at Pittodrie for the Scotland v Tonga match, same as there were bars at McDiarmid park when Elton John played his gig there..... The price of beer/wine/spirits at Murrayfield is disgustingly high, and you get these plastic 'glasses' that always spill half the contents too so yuo wuold end up with another thread abuot being fleeced for a beer and complaining abuot the sticky flor, steps and walkways too.... You re not allowed to drink in the stadium itself,only under the stands at football matches Kev so you would nt be leaving that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 You find people binging their drinks in the last hour before a game usually with shots of vodka,port or some kind of sours or such like.This would nt happen in the ground as they only sell beer or lager.I think it would reduce the amount of very drunk people at the football.It would also stop the away carry out brigade that usually hang about the Crieff Rd area and also the general mess left by them aswell. Hear Hear. DyernePef, ENRORNEGROOPE and junniguoulk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Mystery Man Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 its the old firm's fault. It's not just the old firm fans that drink and behave like idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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