SaintPeter91 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 What are your hopes for the guy for this season and beyond? Do you think he can have his breakthrough season this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 depends on how he is utilised - if he's good enough to be in the team, he's good enough to use to his full potential IMO. Potentially the best corner taker we've had since Sheerin I reckon, but I worry that responsibility will lie with the 'senior pros' in the team. Decades of corners floated to the 18 yard line... does my head in. When wee Max was at Brechin, they scored barrel loads of goals from his corners and free kick deliveries. He scored some belters of direct free kicks too. Kilgour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgour Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 This is the season he has to show that he merits a place in the first team, takes his opportunities and hopefully blossoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Kilgour said: This is the season he has to show that he merits a place in the first team, takes his opportunities and hopefully blossoms. If allowed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Sink or swim season for him, he needs to contribute goals/assists regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Paddy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RandomGuy said: Sink or swim season for him, he needs to contribute goals/assists regularly. Unfair, I think He certainly needs to learn whats expected of him in the top flight. Has been thrown in to sides lately packed with youth and underperforming seniors, and hasn't looked the worse player on show. If the squad doesn't dramatically improve, can't really write him off at this young ageif he doesn't shine in a sea of turds. Indicator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: Sink or swim season for him, he needs to contribute goals/assists regularly. Seriously?!?!?? Miles off Macca’s expectations if you ask me. This is the season that he will be eased into the squad with a view to him coming a more prominent player next season. Edited August 1, 2023 by R.B.B:- Adz St. Paddy, Brian Potter and Indicator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Seriously?!?!?? Miles off Macca’s expectations if you ask me. This is the season that he will be eased into the squad with a view to him coming a more prominent player next season. We waist so much on carrying lightweight players..... wonder how much was blown on Bair and so many like him. It's always so obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Another loan to the Championship, even if for six months, would be my preferred choice for him this season. Can’t see us being in a position to allow that to happen though. Turned 21 in May and only played 68 games, with around half of those in the Highland League and League Two. Big ask of him to come into a (struggling) Premiership side and be one of the main creative outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maskrey Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, MySpazz said: We waist so much on carrying lightweight players..... wonder how much was blown on Bair and so many like him. It's always so obvious. Bair just signed for Well and will likely rip us a new one when we play them. MySpazz and pezza70 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, St. Paddy said: Unfair, I think He certainly needs to learn whats expected of him in the top flight. Has been thrown in to sides lately packed with youth and underperforming seniors, and hasn't looked the worse player on show. If the squad doesn't dramatically improve, can't really write him off at this young ageif he doesn't shine in a sea of turds. 1 hour ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Seriously?!?!?? Miles off Macca’s expectations if you ask me. This is the season that he will be eased into the squad with a view to him coming a more prominent player next season. Any other season id agree with both, but this season we can't have passengers. Senior players and youth need to step up if theyre to be playing regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Paddy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 I'm a big fan of gteenhousing young lads, and think maybe max's development was stunted by wasting a spell in Highland league when he should have been league one, and another spell at Falkirk where he should have been championship. But to now throw him out with the bath water because the squad structure is awry? Another loan, or impact player at best.if forced to play him, we have to expect mistakes, inexperience and hesitancy, unless he is surrounded by pro's protecting and supporting him. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPeter91 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Does he start this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, St. Paddy said: I'm a big fan of gteenhousing young lads, and think maybe max's development was stunted by wasting a spell in Highland league when he should have been league one, and another spell at Falkirk where he should have been championship. But to now throw him out with the bath water because the squad structure is awry? Another loan, or impact player at best.if forced to play him, we have to expect mistakes, inexperience and hesitancy, unless he is surrounded by pro's protecting and supporting him. At what point do you stop treating them a kid though? He turns 22 this season and Ali McCann is only 2 years older than him, hes not some 17yo. If he wants to be a top flight attacking midfielder he needs to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Maskrey said: Bair just signed for Well and will likely rip us a new one when we play them. If he does then it's not because he's good but because our defence is abysmal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, RandomGuy said: At what point do you stop treating them a kid though? He turns 22 this season and Ali McCann is only 2 years older than him, hes not some 17yo. If he wants to be a top flight attacking midfielder he needs to prove it. Stop comparing him to other players is a good start. He will never be as good as Ali McCann - 90% of the youth players that we produce will never be as good as Ali McCann. If we had 11 players of Ali McCann’s quality when he was 21 we’d challenge Rangers and Celtic for the league. He’s just turned 21, he’s a kid, he will improve over this season and shouldn’t be expected to boss a midfield at that age. St. Paddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Paddy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: He turns 22 this season and Ali McCann is only 2 years older than him, hes not some 17yo. . Ali McCann came into a performing side and was able to improve his game. Max has played at too low a level for his perceived talent, and is now coming into a shitshow. Does he have potential? I think so. Is it unfair to throw him out of the club if he doesn't achieve it this year? I think so, to. In an ideal world, I would loan him out again, but if we are relying on inexperienced (at this level) kids coming in, he looks like one of the better options, and maybe needs a kid gloves approach we don't have time to adopt, which isn't his fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Stop comparing him to other players is a good start. He will never be as good as Ali McCann - 90% of the youth players that we produce will never be as good as Ali McCann. If we had 11 players of Ali McCann’s quality when he was 21 we’d challenge Rangers and Celtic for the league. He’s just turned 21, he’s a kid, he will improve over this season and shouldn’t be expected to boss a midfield at that age. Im not expecting him to "boss" anything, im just expecting him to hit double figures in terms of goals+assists if he wants to be first choice for us this season. That's the same as i expect from Carey and Wright and May, who are also the ones looked at for final 3rd stuff. I dont agree we should accept him not contributing anything tangible because hes young, hes not by modern standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, St. Paddy said: Ali McCann came into a performing side and was able to improve his game. Max has played at too low a level for his perceived talent, and is now coming into a shitshow. Does he have potential? I think so. Is it unfair to throw him out of the club if he doesn't achieve it this year? I think so, to. In an ideal world, I would loan him out again, but if we are relying on inexperienced (at this level) kids coming in, he looks like one of the better options, and maybe needs a kid gloves approach we don't have time to adopt, which isn't his fault McCanns debut was a 7-0 loss to Celtic wasnt it? And we were horrendous that season to start with. Im not saying we punt him, just that if he doesnt hit those targets then he cant play regularly for us. In a small squad hes going to be playing regularly, so we need him to reach those targets. Not his fault to have that pressure, and its unfair, but thats football. Sometimes youre just chucked in and its sink or swim, so what have you got about you? Edited August 1, 2023 by RandomGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, PSJ.84 said: Another loan to the Championship, even if for six months, would be my preferred choice for him this season. Can’t see us being in a position to allow that to happen though. Turned 21 in May and only played 68 games, with around half of those in the Highland League and League Two. Big ask of him to come into a (struggling) Premiership side and be one of the main creative outlets. I think Max was disappointed that he got loaned out last season as he thought he had done ok at the beginning of last season. If he gets loaned out again I think it will be the last we see of Max. I don't see him playing every week but with being light on bodies I think will at least be on the bench. If he is played it has to be CM as he is not a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 The formation was a necessity due to the injuries. Macca didn't want Kucheravyi wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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