RandomGuy Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 And yet, not one match report nor one pundit mentioned any "deflection" Maybe like me, they are also all blind?? I doubt they actually paid much attention to be honest. You simply cannot get the ball to dip so wildly, within 16 yards of goal, with the kicking action he made. Only the defender will likely know if it dipped unless somebody studies the videos intensely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 And yet, not one match report nor one pundit mentioned any "deflection" Maybe like me, they are also all blind?? You aren't blind, you just didn't notice the hard-to-spot deflection. Remember that journalists and pundits don't actually watch St. Johnstone games. After Butcher's red at dundee utd, the bbc website referred to it as a "taclkle", and the Scotsman called it something similar, though I can't remember what. He pulled the May's shirt. One (admittedly minor) incident amongst hundreds dublin saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergiefootball Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 You aren't blind, you just didn't notice the hard-to-spot deflection. Remember that journalists and pundits don't actually watch St. Johnstone games. After Butcher's red at dundee utd, the bbc website referred to it as a "taclkle", and the Scotsman called it something similar, though I can't remember what. He pulled the May's shirt. One (admittedly minor) incident amongst hundreds Spot on mate...half the time Spencey gets the scorer wrong or has to rely on the tannoy for the correct info...definite deflection if you missed it you are indeed blind....should have gone to specsavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 from where I was seated, about 20 yards away from the laddie, it was a clean strike. Not the slightest hint of a deflection. May simply looked uo and curled his foot round the ball and popped it up and over the haplesss keeper.. You had the better view and therefore it was an even better wicked shot from such a distance and angle..long MAY it continue. The ghost of Jim Morton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Never a deflection. Am I wrong in thinking that the modern footballs can behave like that if struck on the valve? I understand that the likes of Bale and Ronaldo line the ball up to strike them either just above or just below the valve, to increase the topspin on the ball. Admittedly, from open play that would be just as much luck as a deflection off the defender. One of the pundits suggested that it might have spun up off his standing leg too. Another possibility. I can't fathom why people think it hit the defender though, it just didn't. The ghost of Jim Morton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Spot on mate...half the time Spencey gets the scorer wrong or has to rely on the tannoy for the correct info...definite deflection if you missed it you are indeed blind....should have gone to specsavers. Nice to see you back FF, where you been hiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Think it did take the slightest of nicks of the defender which gave it an inch or two more height. Still a great goal. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I can't fathom why people think it hit the defender though, it just didn't. because it did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Who was the defender ? Let's ask him . Oldermoresensiblepack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Am I wrong in thinking that the modern footballs can behave like that if struck on the valve? I understand that the likes of Bale and Ronaldo line the ball up to strike them either just above or just below the valve, to increase the topspin on the ball. Admittedly, from open play that would be just as much luck as a deflection off the defender. Ronaldo can do that on an incredibly regular basis. Not once has anyone ever managed to get it to dip so much from within the box though. That combined with the way he struck the ball makes it fairly obvious to me its taken a deflection, other people might be so blinded by St Johnstone tinted goggles they just can't see that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Only one way to settle the (was there a deflection or not) debate, as TV Cameras were not at the races, sorry Football. Ask the scorer? But like any decent striker, what does everyone on here think His answer is gonna be? THERE RESTS THIS TOPIC/QUESTION. But lets all be honest, like TW, "that adds another zero to his transfer value" Well done Stevie May, you sent us home happy and proud to be a Saintee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldermoresensiblepack Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Who was the defender ? Let's ask him .rumored to have claimed it skinned his back on the way as it passed over him.don't know if it's true no real source just a Buddies I know on tinternet say that what he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Who was the defender ? Let's ask him . 22 Naismith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 My buddy who is a buddies fan say that Naismith says it didn't touch him. rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 My buddy who is a buddies fan say that Naismith says it didn't touch him. I find that statement just as meaningless as oldmoresensible's assertions, as I'm sure you well know. Doesn't matter though, as it did hit his back, and defenders would prefer not to admit it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 This is still going on? Possibly the most petty thread ever on here and that takes some doing. 4 days of playground stuff! gertiesaints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) It's only 'playground stuff' if people are taking it seriously... although it seriously did take a deflection Edited January 15, 2014 by Jiangsu Sainty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 So it was an OG then? You are clearly stating that it would have had insufficient topspin to deceive the goalkeeper had it not hit the defender, therefore it wasn't going in, therefore it is an OG? Does that take a few numbers off the value of Stevie May? Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I thought the dubious goals panel relied on whether it was goal-bound in a directional sense, not on whether it would have beat the keeper or not. In any case May's value is tumbling - totally over-rated, as this deflection proves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well, would it have enough dip to stop it flying over the bar then? I thought the same as you, but there was one down south a few weeks ago - trundling towards the keeper and took a deflection and rolled into the corner. The shot would have gone in had the keeper not been there, but he just had to pick it up. It was given as an OG. Rest assured, had this been in the EPL, we would have had scientific evidence to prove it one way or another. I blame Neil Doncaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I thought the same as you, but there was one down south a few weeks ago - trundling towards the keeper and took a deflection and rolled into the corner. The shot would have gone in had the keeper not been there, but he just had to pick it up. It was given as an OG. Interesting, will bear that in mind I blame Neil Doncaster. And the tories Oldermoresensiblepack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 In the big scheme off things does it matter ball in the net, 3 points move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 In the big scheme off things does it matter ball in the net, 3 points move on. Of course it doesn't. Folk were just having a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 in this video it literally couldnt be clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Watched it back, but from 4:26 - 4:29 it just said 'this section of the footage has been removed due to international conspiracy theories, and will be held by the pentagon for 25 years before public access is again permitted'. Guess we'll find out in 2039 if it was a deflection. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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