AthensSaint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Which is also a term to describe what is under the cranium of Evans who does not sound the sharpest prick on the cactus. Yeh,but he is a footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee john Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The guy is an average footballer, not a superstar. Would a superstar get treated the same? I think not, clubs would bend over to sign that superstar. Mike Tyson still got back into his sport after what he did, media, sponsors and promoters couldn't wait to get him back in the ring. So my main point is that some are treated differently, depends on your status in your sport. Evans will get hounded out in everything he now tries to do because he is just an average player. AthensSaint, SlickDT, HOODLUM65 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 The guy is an average footballer, not a superstar. Would a superstar get treated the same? I think not, clubs would bend over to sign that superstar. Mike Tyson still got back into his sport after what he did, media, sponsors and promoters couldn't wait to get him back in the ring. So my main point is that some are treated differently, depends on your status in your sport. Evans will get hounded out in everything he now tries to do because he is just an average player. Look at Messi and his tax cause... Many UK "Celebs" have been hounded because of them being seen to work the system yet no one has uttered a word that Messi could well be guilty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazman1977 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 He's determined to clear his name and get another club. Seems like he won't take no for an answer. that made me "LAUGH OUT LOUD" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthandproud Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 He has been convicted in a court of law by a Jury of his peers of raping a 19 year old girl. The Court of appeal have reviewed it and agreed with the original verdict of being guilty of rape. Having read the Court of appeal verdict it should send out a big warning to anybody that is thinking of having sex with somebody, that is under the influence of alcohol. "A complainant consents if, and only if, she has the freedom and capacity to make a choice, and she exercised that choice to agree to sexual intercourse." Hopefully a lot of people will really take note of that passage "and only if, she has the freedom and capacity to make a choice" Maybe this is what should be taught as well as no is no, if the person that your away to have sex with has had one too many just don't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 He has been convicted in a court of law by a Jury of his peers of raping a 19 year old girl. The Court of appeal have reviewed it and agreed with the original verdict of being guilty of rape. Having read the Court of appeal verdict it should send out a big warning to anybody that is thinking of having sex with somebody, that is under the influence of alcohol. "A complainant consents if, and only if, she has the freedom and capacity to make a choice, and she exercised that choice to agree to sexual intercourse." Hopefully a lot of people will really take note of that passage "and only if, she has the freedom and capacity to make a choice" Maybe this is what should be taught as well as no is no, if the person that your away to have sex with has had one too many just don't do it. Pretty standard rule if you have any morals whatsoever. Highland Saintee and Gordon Drummonds Perm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 What if she's ur wife? fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 O J Simpson never even went to jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiginasaintsstrip Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Depends on the country. Most African and Middle Eastern countries don't consider "marital rape" a crime, almost all European countries do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Depends on the country. Most African and Middle Eastern countries don't consider "marital rape" a crime, almost all European countries do. Always good to have a resident expert on matters, regardless how young and stupid they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiginasaintsstrip Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 o_O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) The question I have, what if both parties are drunk? I never quite understood why the responsibility always falls on the man? There must be cases of perfectly sober woman sleeping with drunk men who wake up the next day regretting what they did? Edited January 12, 2015 by Broon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Legal definition of rape involves penetration. in straight relationships, this would require something to be done with a woman. Plus, most women who tried to take advantage of a paralytic bloke would be sorely disappointed.........although there have been isolated convictions of women for the rape of men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Depends on the country. Most African and Middle Eastern countries don't consider "marital rape" a crime, almost all European countries do. I meant what if ur wife has had 1 or 2 too many and u have sex with her . Is it rape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 yes. If she says no. This really is'nt difficult. Can I **** you? Yes, hard and fast, she says. Get in there. No thank you, she says. Don't **** her. right, that's pretty much sorted, really, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 yes. If she says no. This really is'nt difficult. Can I **** you? Yes, hard and fast, she says. Get in there. No thank you, she says. Don't **** her. right, that's pretty much sorted, really, isn't it. Have you had a few ales in the Crees Inn tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Its that simple is it? Have you read anything about the case? The judge said she might well have said yes, but she wasn't in a fit state to make the decision. But when she had sex with his mate just a wee while earlier she was, so he wasn't guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Have you had a few ales in the Crees Inn tonight? Ooo local knowledge. No. Doubt anyone else, has, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 my big issue is that the courts are expecting a scenario such as this... chedwyn " would it be ok if we had some sexual intercourse just now ?" cos if thats the case then most folk would be classed as rapists cos by asking its a big turn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_saint Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 cos if thats the case then most folk would be classed as rapists cos by asking its a big turn off. maybe for you. it doesnt need be verbal, but a nonconsensual partner wouldnt be a turn on for most folk. Frankly thats just weird We're talking about a convicted rapist after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Joshua7 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 He's a convicted rapist so it's a massive no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deej Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 He's a convicted rapist so it's a massive no from me. Doesn't matter to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_saint Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 i think the lack of contrition for so long has played against him. Whether he is ultimately guilty or not (as he claims, as opposed to what the courts say) , you cannot be a convicted sex offender and expect to walk back into your old job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 i think the lack of contrition for so long has played against him. Whether he is ultimately guilty or not (as he claims, as opposed to what the courts say) , you cannot be a convicted sex offender and expect to walk back into your old job. Doesn't that usually depend on how the OMU (or English equivalent) view the perceived risk associated with your occupation? Assuming he is on 'licence' which carries various conditions. I'd imagine if he is being linked to clubs that the OMU has given its approval. In this case, the public are also involved because of his previous high profile career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 The guy has taken his punishment from the court for what he did. I think he should be rehabilitated now. The sentence didn't include denying the guy his livelihood because of his crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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