Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I think this thread must be a wind up, Apart from his goal and 2 runs he was shite, He didn't make any forward runs with the ball, Walked about with the ball and was caught in possession many time, was caught offside when he couldn't be arsed coming back, - I'm shocked that people think that was a good performance, I will say he took his goal well and that's about it. I would play Edwards every day of the week ahead of him is Nige rattling your sister or something....? Unsure what game you were watching on Saturday. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Not a poor attempt at a wind up, it is my genuine thoughts on his performance. Watched the game from the stands and I would not have him in my team, id rather have someone who gives his all for 90 minutes than someone who stops playing after he scores because his job was done (and yes he scored early so he done nowt the rest of the game) As I say my opinion and im entitled to it and anyone who knows me values my input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Why would I want to do that? I wouldn't start a negative thread on a player just give an honest overview of his performance Feel free to make a thread criticising Nigel's performance then. You will be the only person posting in it. Absolutely bamboozling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Haha - I love the uneducated football fan Wow. I can't believe that you actually think that. He made countless forward runs, won us plenty of free kicks, played some fantastic passes and worked as hard as any other player on the pitch (apart from May). His ability to turn his marker or cut in front of them at pace is excellent and his end product is improving with every game. How you can say he is shite is beyond me. Then you go on to say you would rather Edwards played! Edwards, who hasha contributed absolutely nothing in any games he's played in for us. You clearly don't have a clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thats whats its all about everone has there own thoughts and views you dont have to agree, discuss / debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thats whats its all about everone has there own thoughts and views you dont have to agree, discuss / debate I totally agree. Sometimes though, somebody makes such a ridiculous observation that people will (rightly) jump all over it. Doesn't of course mean that if they really mean it, that they shouldn't post it. But, they should also be prepared for counter-argument. Others reaction and response does not mean that they think that the OP shouldn't have posted, they are simply giving their opinion in return. I was probably one of the main critics of Nige last season for a couple of reasons, and still think that he has a way to go to fully realise the potential that he obviously has, but on Saturday you could clearly see what the lad is capable of. I remember the times he slowed play down. If we had been losing or even drawing, then that may have done my nut in, but after his shift and the fact that we were winnign comfortably, I can see no grounds for criticism there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 The problem Nigel has is that he will do a 70 yard run and skin his defender. If the ball comes near him within 5 mins he can't do it again so he jogs and looks to pass - he's buggered. He'll then go on another run and then take a breather. The style of his play is VERY physical which is tiring and he's not the fittest in the world. Because of that I think he's showing maturity by picking his run and using the ball differently when he's tired. If he ever got to a level of fitness where he could run all day he'd be frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 The problem Nigel has is that he will do a 70 yard run and skin his defender. If the ball comes near him within 5 mins he can't do it again so he jogs and looks to pass - he's buggered. He'll then go on another run and then take a breather. The style of his play is VERY physical which is tiring and he's not the fittest in the world. Because of that I think he's showing maturity by picking his run and using the ball differently when he's tired. If he ever got to a level of fitness where he could run all day he'd be frightening. One of my mates commented on Saturday that he thought Nige was looking 'heavy' at the start of the game. Not sure if he has muscled up a bit, or put a bit of beef on. I would be surprised if it was the latter under the current regime tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I love the counter argument that someone with a different opinion is clearly 'uneducated'. How grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannachie Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I love the counter argument that someone with a different opinion is clearly 'uneducated'. How grown up. Aye, but if you knew him you would value his opinion.......apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 One of my mates commented on Saturday that he thought Nige was looking 'heavy' at the start of the game. Not sure if he has muscled up a bit, or put a bit of beef on. I would be surprised if it was the latter under the current regime tbh. I can't see it being fat to be honest. When he runs he's like shit off a stick, I doubt you could do that carrying fat. One of his biggest strengths is his strength, when be put Ben Gordon (twice his size) on his arse on Saturday he showed rudiculous power for a guy his size. He needs his bulk otherwise he'd just be another lightweight winger who gets bullied by the fullbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted August 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Why would I want to do that? I wouldn't start a negative thread on a player just give an honest overview of his performance But you'd criticise a player on his appreciation thread? If you don't think he is a good player, don't post on his appreciation thread. The point of an appreciation thread is for people to post their appreciation of a player. I didn't create a 'Nigel Hasselbaink Appreciation or Disappointment Thread - Either Applicable.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Aye, but if you knew him you would value his opinion.......apparently Well I got six highers, two advanced highers and an honours degree, and I reckon wee Nige is shit hot. That's my uneducated opinion! Caveat - being educated don't make me less of a muppet. Seannachie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I don't claim to know Mark but I have had some communication with him and read some of his views and I value his opinion. I disagree this time but that doesn't mean I have to call it a wind up. In fact I have seen some if his views on this that suggest the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannachie Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Well I would say it was a wind up if you come onto an appreciation thread and come out with rubbish like "Apart from his goal and 2 runs he was shite, He didn't make any forward runs with the ball" Either that or I was at a different game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Well I got six highers, two advanced highers and an honours degree, and I reckon wee Nige is shit hot. That's my uneducated opinion! Caveat - being educated don't make me less of a muppet. I'll match that and raise you an MBA. And I'm a feckin eejit. Education maketh NOT the man. Nige has a centre of gravity even lower than Maradonna's - he could be carrying a sack of tatties and still put Ross County defenders on their arses 8 days a week. Bit worrying though that we now have four or five players who are likely to be getting on the radar of scouts. Also really brilliant. That's what being a diddy team is all about. Enjoy Nige and the rest while we can, I suppose is the lesson. ex-montrosesaintee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LethamChippy Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Fantastic thread. The one guy who is connected with football and has badges to prove it gives his honest opinion ( rightly or wrongly ) and gets slaughtered by the " Football Manager " brigade. This site is quite incredible at times. john1962 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Goran Stanic Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Haha - I love the uneducated football fan Says the guy who thought Hasselbaink was shite on Saturday and demanded Gwion Edwards instead.... Next you'll be schooling us on how Murray Davidson is just a poor mans Nick McCoy! andy rhodes fancy watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Fantastic thread. The one guy who is connected with football and has badges to prove it gives his honest opinion ( rightly or wrongly ) and gets slaughtered by the " Football Manager " brigade. This site is quite incredible at times. Billy Stark has football badges and he is a bloody idiot. Agree some on this site are quick to put the boot in if they disagree though. I think if Marks opinion would have come after any other game it wouldnt have had as hostile a response. In my opinion that was Nigels best game for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 You obviously need to be 'qualified' now to have an opinion. Lomas clearly thought the same player was shite, and he's the bloody Millwall manager!! Clearly he knows more than us. Tommy Wright on the other hand clearly isn't qualified to make comment, despite masterminding our most fantastic performance for 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Never once have I said being qualified makes my opinion more or less valuable than anyone else's So in the interest of debate lets be honest and look at these questions - We had a Left and a Right Attacking Mid so during the game Who made more forward runs with the ball and beat their man? Who Completed the most passes? Who tracked their man back to the edge of their own box? Who came inside to get the ball when it wasn't going out wide? Which player covered more ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I sense this thread is about to go downhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstoun Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Never once have I said being qualified makes my opinion more or less valuable than anyone else's So in the interest of debate lets be honest and look at these questions - We had a Left and a Right Attacking Mid so during the game Who made more forward runs with the ball and beat their man? Who Completed the most passes? Who tracked their man back to the edge of their own box? Who came inside to get the ball when it wasn't going out wide? Which player covered more ground? For me that's Craig Brown style box ticking. Great wing play isn't about statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Never once have I said being qualified makes my opinion more or less valuable than anyone else's So in the interest of debate lets be honest and look at these questions - We had a Left and a Right Attacking Mid so during the game Who made more forward runs with the ball and beat their man? Who Completed the most passes? Who tracked their man back to the edge of their own box? Who came inside to get the ball when it wasn't going out wide? Which player covered more ground? You are probably right that Spoony was better and did all these things above....but that doesn't mean Nige played shite.....more than one player can have a good game (by their standards even) at any time you know. By your argument, do you think Edwards would have outclassed Spoony in all these departments, therefore allowing you to say Spoony had a shit game? I also realise that it was not you that raised the 'badges' thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannachie Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Never once have I said being qualified makes my opinion more or less valuable than anyone else's So in the interest of debate lets be honest and look at these questions - We had a Left and a Right Attacking Mid so during the game Who made more forward runs with the ball and beat their man? Who Completed the most passes? Who tracked their man back to the edge of their own box? Who came inside to get the ball when it wasn't going out wide? Which player covered more ground? Here's a couple for you Were these 2 runs that were worthy of note in the first or second half? Are you seriously saying that Nigel did not make any forward runs with the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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