blueheaven Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 The old poll on here is from April and I think most people have already voted and can't change their votes. I think some people felt Davidson deserved the summer to make changes and try to improve things. So, as we're a couple of games into the new season, it would be interesting to see how the support feels now. Should he stay or should he go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Go. Please go! Before the club is damaged beyond repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Twice Geoff has let his heart rule his head, failed both times. Get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Should hae gone months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 I voted yes, it’s not the St Johnstone way I guess as our turn over of managers over the years show that, but I think he has to go now. He will always be a legend at our club but that doesn’t mean he is exempt from criticism and I honestly believe there will be no one as bad as Dundee in our league this year, and everyone has seemed to build up a little stronger, whilst we haven’t improved off the field and unfortunately all I see is us regressing even more then last season, which is saying something. Cookster363 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, pezza70 said: I honestly believe there will be no one as bad as Dundee in our league this year, and everyone has seemed to build up a little stronger, whilst we haven’t improved off the field and unfortunately all I see is us regressing even more then last season, which is saying something. There’s always at least one and if it’s not obvious from looking at the other teams who that is, then it’s more than likely yourself MySpazz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Said it since before the Kelty game, and that game really should have been the final straw. Was prepared to give him a second chance after the playoff victory but he's managed to completely **** that up after only 2 competitive matches. Time is up, there's the door, no hard feelings, aw the best, goodbye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 No brainier for me, but the silence from above is deafening. If only there was a dreaded vote of confidence to be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) This ultimately tells a story. As has been mentioned numerous times, everything that’s going on at the club now is undoing 15+ years of hard work. Within 12 months or so we’ve turned from a model club to nearing basket-case, on the pitch at least. That doesn’t start and finish with the manager, but he has a huge part to play in it. He’ll undoubtedly go down as a club legend (arguably an icon in Scottish football), and rightly so, for what he achieved in 2021 - but I think it’s best for all parties he moves on before tarnishing that any further. Edited July 17, 2022 by PSJ.84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookster363 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Also the lowest scoring club in Scotland!! Not the league ! Scotland haha pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoshBrat Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Would keep him if he plays 523, sack him if he plays 532 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PoshBrat said: Would keep him if he plays 523, sack him if he plays 532 I’d argue we looked a lot more comfortable yesterday when we changed to 532, although we were still rank Edited July 17, 2022 by PSJ.84 Broggy Man and dave mc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-johns-toun Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 fed up of excuses and his poor work in the transfer market, and obvs the poor performances on the park, he needs to go, as does maclean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintee in exile Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Yeah its the players that are letting me down,you know the ones I signed and the ones I coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Why, in three headlines… rik2304 and Broggy Man 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 Get him out before we can’t see anyway back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted July 17, 2022 Report Share Posted July 17, 2022 This combined with the Facebook poll certainly don't look good for Callum. Unless, as one happy clapper told me, it's only those who want him out who have voted. Which seemed a very strange thing to say. Broggy Man, R.B.B:- Adz and blueheaven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balhousie Blue 1884 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 This season is shaping up to be like seasons 75/76 and 01/02 all over again. Go NOW while there’s still a chance for someone to turn it around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Dave Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 I don't see the benefit of sacking him now. It brings in a new manager with no time to set the squad as they want. It makes it difficult to make a change in November if things aren't going well and pretty much commits them to after the January window closes. A bad decision guarantees relegation. Giving Davidson until November, and the World Cup break, makes more sense. A new manager will have a month whilst the World Cup is on to work with the team, have a couple of games in late December and know the strategy for the January transfer market. If a change is going to be made, November is the time. I'd give Davidson until November. If we're doing ok then obviously keep him. Switching now seems to be the completely wrong time and guarantee a mess for the whole season. It's too late now to avoid giving his plan time to settle (and a new manager opportunities to see the strengths and weaknesses). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, That_Dave said: I don't see the benefit of sacking him now. It brings in a new manager with no time to set the squad as they want. It makes it difficult to make a change in November if things aren't going well and pretty much commits them to after the January window closes. A bad decision guarantees relegation. Giving Davidson until November, and the World Cup break, makes more sense. A new manager will have a month whilst the World Cup is on to work with the team, have a couple of games in late December and know the strategy for the January transfer market. If a change is going to be made, November is the time. I'd give Davidson until November. If we're doing ok then obviously keep him. Switching now seems to be the completely wrong time and guarantee a mess for the whole season. It's too late now to avoid giving his plan time to settle (and a new manager opportunities to see the strengths and weaknesses). Sorry but no one could make it worse. Where have you been all last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 minute ago, That_Dave said: I don't see the benefit of sacking him now. It brings in a new manager with no time to set the squad as they want. It makes it difficult to make a change in November if things aren't going well and pretty much commits them to after the January window closes. A bad decision guarantees relegation. Giving Davidson until November, and the World Cup break, makes more sense. A new manager will have a month whilst the World Cup is on to work with the team, have a couple of games in late December and know the strategy for the January transfer market. If a change is going to be made, November is the time. I'd give Davidson until November. If we're doing ok then obviously keep him. Switching now seems to be the completely wrong time and guarantee a mess for the whole season. It's too late now to avoid giving his plan time to settle (and a new manager opportunities to see the strengths and weaknesses). We could be 10+ points adrift in November, with the pressure seriously on the whole club, and that will only make the job harder for his replacement (and it could also make it harder for the club to attract the best possible candidate). Bring a new manager in now and he'll still have over a month left of the current transfer window to bring a couple of his own signings in and try to get us off to a good start in the league. I really don't see what we're going to find out about Davidson in the next four months that we don't already know. He's not going to suddenly change. Things aren't going to get better. All evidence points towards us getting worse. When we're already this bad, the last thing we need is to sit back and allow our rivals a head start while we further assess something we already know. Really Davidson should have gone with his head held high after the play-off win and it would have been for the best for everyone. But the fact that that didn't happen isn't a reason to further prolong the inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, That_Dave said: I don't see the benefit of sacking him now. It brings in a new manager with no time to set the squad as they want. It makes it difficult to make a change in November if things aren't going well and pretty much commits them to after the January window closes. A bad decision guarantees relegation. Davidson guarantees relegation. The benefit is that this squad of players isn’t the worst in the Premiership. It’s not far off, but it is but than one other squad and on a par with 2 other squads. It’s Davidson that is the problem. If a manager inherited this squad it would simply be about finding a system that suits it and getting these players playing. Davidson is the problem. Edited July 18, 2022 by R.B.B:- Adz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndb Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 think you could be right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Really Davidson should have gone with his head held high after the play-off win and it would have been for the best for everyone. But the fact that that didn't happen isn't a reason to further prolong the inevitable. This is it for me. Said it once it was apparent he wasn’t getting sacked after Kelty, and was surprised there weren’t more calling for it closer to the play-off. Extremely weird way to look at it, but the late Hendry and Rooney goals could arguably have had a bigger impact than we’d ever have thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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