ex-montrosesaintee Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I believe that could put us joint top of the u-20s table with 25 points from 16 games, although other teams around us have games in hand and superior GD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Kane:Good guy Fallon:Wank The Inspiration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Bbc Scotland news tonight. Watch the guy in the specs. talking about Dundee Utd. youngsters. He was most offensive to some young Saints fans who just happen to remark, that was never a foul, in support of their team. No doubt others who were closer to this than I was , may post something, or may have done so. Having just logged in, am waiting to hear this guy. Is his name Campbell? I will hear when this item is on air shortly. Edited December 17, 2013 by HOODLUM65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSaints_1884 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Match report from today's under 20 match v Dundee United. You can also view match reports from the previous two U20 games via the link below. http://perthsaints.wordpress.com/ garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes, it was Campbell. Took his specs off for the interview. Was in the stand during the game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Kane:Good guyFallon:WankTo be fair tho -Fallon wisnae playing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 To be fair tho -Fallon wisnae playing ! I'd like to see Kane getting a wee chance with the first team. Fallon, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Saints youngsters played the ball on the deck, spraying passes left and right and occasionally through the middle. United found it difficult to get into the game due to Saints possession. Steeves was particularly impressive, rampaging down the left, making himself available for a pass, while not forgetting his defensive duties, which were most impressive. To think Kane did not see as much of the ball as normal, yet ended up with a hatrick, which nearly ended up 4 when his shot in the dying minutes just cleared the bar with the keeper looking beaten, speaks volumes for the young man's prowess. Do we loan him out or keep him at the club, with the occasional subs appearance in the first team, from the bench? Personally with the shortage of out and out goal scorers we have at the club, my choice is the latter. I notice at Motherwell Stuart Mc Call has been giving a young striker a run in the first team of late Kane has scored more goals than he has had games. An impressive record at any level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I'd like to see Kane getting a wee chance with the first team.Fallon, not so much.I reckon Kane will need to go the Stevie May route and be loaned out to a lower league club -maybe a spell with Stirling/Arbroath before progressing to the likes of Hamilton again.........I know a lot of folk would want him to get into our First team and get games that way BUT .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Special One Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Disgusting from this Campbell guy, apparently uniteds director of youth football, all i did was voice my opinion to my mate and then since they overheard it, i was on the receiving end of some foul mouth abuse! The guy made a scene and an arse of himself for no need, especially at a youth game. Anyway, COYS!! stanley saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Disgusting from this Campbell guy, apparently uniteds director of youth football, all i did was voice my opinion to my mate and then since they overheard it, i was on the receiving end of some foul mouth abuse! The guy made a scene and an arse of himself for no need, especially at a youth game. Anyway, COYS!! Sorry to hear it was you that was on the receiving end of this thug Campbells foul mouthed tirade. A friend of mine who was a few rows behind him, informed us at half-time and then sat behind you and your mates second half, just waiting for him to open his gub. He could have provoked a punch up, the idiot. The Special One 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Would seem that it is going to take Kane a loan deal before he gets a chance with Saints if the bbc can be believed - St Johnstone boss Tommy Wright is keen to draft in another striker to boost his front line options when the January transfer window opens. (Daily Record) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 The thing with Kane is that the club's approach to the development of Stevie May has clearly worked...we now have a first team striker who is topping the scoring charts, attracting lots of interest both in Scotland and from clubs around the country, as well as playing for his country at u21 level. Why can't we trust the club to manage Kane's development in the same way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Dunno, what Tommy Wright says to the media and what Tommy Wright does in the best interests of St Johnstone aren't always the same thing. Long may that continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 The thing with Kane is that the club's approach to the development of Stevie May has clearly worked...we now have a first team striker who is topping the scoring charts, attracting lots of interest both in Scotland and from clubs around the country, as well as playing for his country at u21 level. Why can't we trust the club to manage Kane's development in the same way? I've said before that strikers will always be judged first and foremost on their goal return rate - the fact that May did it at 3rd division, then 1st division and now at SPL level, averaging not a kick in the arse off a goal a game is a huge reason why he attracts so much interest. every sub appearance that Kane makes for the first team and doesn't score will be a statistic that people look at in 3 years time and be a negative advert for him - rightly or wrongly. Kane has the potential to be even more prolific than May. A season or two at a lower level banging in 30 goals a season will stand him in great stead for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) May had a chance at the SPL before he went on loan and it was more than two minutes as a sub. Edited December 18, 2013 by garydavidson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 What length of contract is Kane on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 What length of contract is Kane on I think it is 3 pages of A4 Oldermoresensiblepack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 A loan deal is the right thing to do. It's worked with May and so long as Kane gets his head down and works hard, it'll be no different for him. He's probably not ready for the Premiership from what I've seen of him. It's very much the same as it was with May, a little lightweight, he'll beef up and come back and challenge for a first team spot. I'm sure we tried to loan him out in the summer, but lack of striking options put paid to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Did he not sign an extension to his deal a few months ago, sure it was on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 He's out of contract in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 He's out of contract in the summer. Yep only thing I could find was this - http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=2336 May 2014 it runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Hope there is work going on behind the scene then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We were lucky to hang on to May this summer past and can't help but think we're making the same mistake again with Kane. The lad is what, 19 now? He should either be out on loan or in the first team squad, and on a longer contract than he currently is. Our approach to youth development is risky at best IMO, and we should have the likes of Kane tied down for at least 2 or 3 years at this point. sixties saintee, HOODLUM65, 55saint and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Kane is maybe holding out for someone else, does anyone know that we've not tried to get him signed? We can't force people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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