Edstar101 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lomas in people skills shocker rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I did say 'it would appear', not 'it is fact', your honour. rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lomas is the only man to ever lead Saints in to Europe twice. He can be as much of a (alleged) t*** as he wants as far as I'm concerned. dave mc, ajs, Wendy Saints and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lomas is the only man to ever lead Saints in to Europe twice. He can be as much of a (alleged) t*** as he wants as far as I'm concerned. Jose Mourinho seems like he's a bit of a t*** too to be honest. Don't think anyone questioned his achievements. Rather like Sandy Clark though, I'd suggest he inherited a decent squad, had some success, and left with most people disliking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I like Jose. He's mellowed a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Bar Toilet Attendant Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 The fact Lomas didn't rate Stevie May & was unwilling to offer him a new contract confirms what t*** he really was. Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Special One Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I like Jose. He's mellowed a bit. Cheers! rik2304, ryangordon86 and ex-montrosesaintee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I like Jose. He's mellowed a bit. I'm referring to the way he seems to treat players he doesn't rate - with an apparent dearth of all respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Jose Mourinho seems like he's a bit of a t*** too to be honest. Don't think anyone questioned his achievements. Rather like Sandy Clark though, I'd suggest he inherited a decent squad, had some success, and left with most people disliking him. The Sandy Clark comparison might have been ok if all he did was get us in Europe the season Del left, but he went on and improved on that whereas Clark had hit the iceberg before he jumped off the ship. Very unfair comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Special One Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Jose Mourinho seems like he's a bit of a t*** too to be honest. Don't think anyone questioned his achievements. Rather like Sandy Clark though, I'd suggest he inherited a decent squad, had some success, and left with most people disliking him. Pfffffft ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 The Sandy Clark comparison might have been ok if all he did was get us in Europe the season Del left, but he went on and improved on that whereas Clark had hit the iceberg before he jumped off the ship. Very unfair comparison. If we still had Lomas we would not have May or Muzz. Nigel would be an unhappy sub. Caddis would be nowhere near the first team. We would have a random journeyman for a keeper and would be right down with the Jambos. And his moaning in the press would be unprecedented. And unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Would love to see a fit Croft back at Saints. Wendy Saints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 The fact Lomas didn't rate Stevie May & was unwilling to offer him a new contract confirms what t*** he really was. According to the weekend paper Wright stated that he was being loaned out again by Lomas for the season and a deal was already done. So he must have been wanting to give him a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 If we still had Lomas we would not have May or Muzz. Nigel would be an unhappy sub. Caddis would be nowhere near the first team. We would have a random journeyman for a keeper and would be right down with the Jambos. And his moaning in the press would be unprecedented. And unbearable. Aye he was so shite he got us into Europe twice. Until Wright does comparatively well over a similar period of time and Lomas flops at Millwall (both looking possible), you can't just write off Lomas as another SC. Far too early to make that judgement. What it isn't too early to say is that he is an absolute weapon, who I was ashamed to have in charge of my club. But abilities as a football manager, too early to say. ryangordon86 and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 What it isn't too early to say is that he is an absolute weapon, who I was ashamed to have in charge of my club. But abilities as a football manager, too early to say. Perfect summary. Please your honour, can I change my statement to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Awesome job! why is Brown in the photo! What a fud.... get ooot o there, you are the chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 why is Brown in the photo! What a fud.... get ooot o there, you are the chairman. To be fair, the photo was from the show racism the red card campaign and not the main team shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Aye he was so shite he got us into Europe twice. Until Wright does comparatively well over a similar period of time and Lomas flops at Millwall (both looking possible), you can't just write off Lomas as another SC. Far too early to make that judgement. What it isn't too early to say is that he is an absolute weapon, who I was ashamed to have in charge of my club. But abilities as a football manager, too early to say. 2nd season was Lomas's achievement granted. 1st season in Europe was lucky at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lomas was one of the best managers we've had, and the sudden decision that he was a shite manager seems to be purely born from the fact nobody liked him, incredible that some people are still so bitter Ali91 and garydavidson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lomas was one of the best managers we've had, and the sudden decision that he was a shite manager seems to be purely born from the fact nobody liked him, incredible that some people are still so bitter No bitterness. Just rampant dislike. But could have 10000 posts about that. He's history now though. And records will show he did a fine job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 No bitterness. Just rampant dislike. But could have 10000 posts about that. He's history now though. And records will show he did a fine job. I know its easy to dislike him, he came across as a right **** who couldn't care about the club. But the way folk go on, comparing him to Clark, you'd think he'd got us relegated and shafted us completely. When in fact he's arguably our most successful ever manager, left us financially sound and made sure his replacement inherited a solid squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I know its easy to dislike him, he came across as a right **** who couldn't care about the club. But the way folk go on, comparing him to Clark, you'd think he'd got us relegated and shafted us completely. When in fact he's arguably our most successful ever manager, left us financially sound and made sure his replacement inherited a solid squad I assume you are digging at me here. I find your comment that he left us financially sound quite astonishing. He spent 18 months greetin' like a bairn that the chairman wouldn't bankroll his preferred signings, the squad was too small etc. when he left, TW was left to butcher the squad, and that is WITHOUT considering the players that Lomas seems to have promised new deals to and then left out in the cold. A weaker chairman above Lomas and he would have happily destroyed us financially and sailed off into the sunset without looking back. saintee in exile and jhq 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I assume you are digging at me here. I find your comment that he left us financially sound quite astonishing. He spent 18 months greetin' like a bairn that the chairman wouldn't bankroll his preferred signings, the squad was too small etc. when he left, TW was left to butcher the squad, and that is WITHOUT considering the players that Lomas seems to have promised new deals to and then left out in the cold. A weaker chairman above Lomas and he would have happily destroyed us financially and sailed off into the sunset without looking back. Yes he said a lot of things, and spoke a lot of words, yet spent very little. It was almost as if he trying to challenge his players to prove themselves, maybe not though, but its not as clear cut as your bitterness towards him is making you believe. Managers have always tried to play mind games with their players, whats to say that wasn't one? And how did Tommy "butcher" the squad? And I assume you're mentioning players getting new contracts purely because of the David Robertson saga, which seems more and more like a good will gesture to help him through his injury, as I can't think of any other who was offered one Lomas has the balls to piss off the support. By challenging his players publicly, and for loaning out May despite his goals at Alloa. Both decisions seem to have paid off, yet he'll forever be hated because of it, wonder if he regrets it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Pretty sure he doesn't give a shit about it. How did Tommy Wright have to "butcher" the squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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