BrechinSaintee Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Is it not true that we wouldn't get a penny if he went to another Scottish team tho? That's the way I picked it up at the start of the season hope I'm wrong tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Is it not true that we wouldn't get a penny if he went to another Scottish team tho? That's the way I picked it up at the start of the season hope I'm wrong tho That's not true either. We'd still be due a development fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1962 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Apparently, according to their fans Falkirk haven't received the money they are owed so the development fee route looks dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scobby_SJFC Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Said this for a while we need him signed on a long term contract to get good money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Apparently, according to their fans Falkirk haven't received the money they are owed so the development fee route looks dodgy. Falkirk haven't received a single penny from that deal as the player was leaving one association for another and Bradford found some loophole. FIFA ordered Bradford to pay it, but they appealed, and its still rumbling on almost two years later You aren't guaranteed anything with the development route, and using the fact Falkirk got so much for Stewart is actually bad for your argument as they never received anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Falkirk haven't received a single penny from that deal as the player was leaving one association for another and Bradford found some loophole. FIFA ordered Bradford to pay it, but they appealed, and its still rumbling on almost two years later You aren't guaranteed anything with the development route, and using the fact Falkirk got so much for Stewart is actually bad for your argument as they never received anything They haven't yet but if FIFA have ordered Bradford to pay I can't see an appeal working. FIFA is a dictatorship in every way, you play by their rules or else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 They haven't yet but if FIFA have ordered Bradford to pay I can't see an appeal working. FIFA is a dictatorship in every way, you play by their rules or else! FIFA are beatable in court though. Bosman showed this, and there's rumours that they'll lose out in a court battle over these new Financial Fair Play rules. The fee Bradford have to pay is already coming down anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center Half Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Rule of thumb in any buisness take the money when it is there. Old clichies Bird in the hand Never look a gift horse etc etc etc . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Goran Stanic Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Rule of thumb in any buisness take the money when it is there. Old clichies Bird in the hand Never look a gift horse etc etc etc . But do you take the money even though you know it will significantly weaken the position of your business? Do you sell out at the first time of asking or do you try to grow your business, keep hold of your prized assets and aim to build a successful future for your business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Do it the St Johnstone way and let the lad decide what's best for him and his future as we did with McCoist which was to the club's credit. auchterarder mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchterarder mark Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 geeso it's like some sort of business manual on here....reminds me why stopped coming on here....chat abt crowd numbers and business isna for me, just want some footie chat..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 geeso it's like some sort of business manual on here....reminds me why stopped coming on here....chat abt crowd numbers and business isna for me, just want some footie chat..... We were awesome yesterday. Did you see it?! auchterarder mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchterarder mark Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 4sure, just watched again on bbc website....wotherspoon's goalmpick of the bunch!!!! May must stay too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Goran Stanic Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 geeso it's like some sort of business manual on here....reminds me why stopped coming on here....chat abt crowd numbers and business isna for me, just want some footie chat..... It is football chat masked with a business metaphor. Keep up. auchterarder mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 FIFA are beatable in court though. Bosman showed this, and there's rumours that they'll lose out in a court battle over these new Financial Fair Play rules. The fee Bradford have to pay is already coming down anyway Bradford wont take fifa to court over it though. Court fees etc will be expensive and almost worthwhile just paying the fee to Falkirk,, particularly if they have a chance of losing and still having to pay the fee anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 If we keep him I reckon he'll bag 15-20 this season. That might see us finish a place or two higher than we otherwise might. That might mean an extra £80-£160,000 in prize money alone. If we sell him will it put some people off coming, if they think we're just going to get shot of our best players? Who knows. And that's before you take into account the fact he'll still be worth something at the end of his current contract, or worth a fee if we can tie him down for another year.Also, I just think he looks a cracking player and I want to see him in a Saints shirt for this year at least. Very talented lad. CEA_20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfk Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I would hope that May would show us enough loyalty for raising him, looking after him and fine tuning his football talent to sign a longer term contract which would make money for the club in the long term . Edited August 18, 2013 by jfk fazman1977, AthensSaint and Broon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Bradford wont take fifa to court over it though. Court fees etc will be expensive and almost worthwhile just paying the fee to Falkirk,, particularly if they have a chance of losing and still having to pay the fee anyway Last I heard they were taking legal advice from the same lawyers who took on the FA and got them re-instated into the FA Cup. The most likely outcome is that the price will be massive lower than £250k if they pay anything at all Edited August 18, 2013 by RandomGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 People that think he will sign a 2 or 3 year contract with Saints are dreaming, imo. I would love him to, but really can't see it happening. He'll either be away either within the next week, or at the end of the season. There are too many 'should've taken my chance' stories out there for him to risk staying and being forgotten about - did Gary Irvine not turn down a move to England while he was with us? Same with Danny Griffin? Others have been mentioned too in this thread. Loyalty will win you the hearts of fans, but it won't set you up for life like a few years in the big leagues can. I really hope that Saints can hold onto him until the summer, when he'll no doubt have bigger teams that Peterborough looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEccles621 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 People that think he will sign a 2 or 3 year contract with Saints are dreaming, imo. I would love him to, but really can't see it happening. He'll either be away either within the next week, or at the end of the season. There are too many 'should've taken my chance' stories out there for him to risk staying and being forgotten about - did Gary Irvine not turn down a move to England while he was with us? Same with Danny Griffin? Others have been mentioned too in this thread. Loyalty will win you the hearts of fans, but it won't set you up for life like a few years in the big leagues can. I really hope that Saints can hold onto him until the summer, when he'll no doubt have bigger teams that Peterborough looking at him. Yes - I agree with you here. The other side of course is that there are also lots of examples of 'promising player heads South' and then disappears. It's a gamble for May either way. My hope is that he stays for the season. When I go to the fitba', I want to a) see Saints win and be entertained. I believe Stevie makes a) more possible and he already ticks the box on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 What about tehy sign him for a fee then loan him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Yes - I agree with you here. The other side of course is that there are also lots of examples of 'promising player heads South' and then disappears. You're right, it's a gamble either way. He might go down and become the next Mcarthy or Mcarthur, or he could end up like Goodwillie or Wylde and pop up back in the SPL in a couple of years. Or shopping round the lower leagues like Kieran Mcanespie. Tough call for a young guy to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Think Saints need to think commercially while looking after SM's interests. SM needs game time, goals and plenty media exposure - will most likely not get this in Pborough. Stay with Saints and both benefit - SM can hedge his bets if Saints offer deal extension with bonus payment linked to goals scored target BUT add in transfer fee trigger for next season and SM to get a proportion of fee say (25pc ) if deal agreed. Job done. AthensSaint and JEccles621 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Think Saints need to think commercially while looking after SM's interests. SM needs game time, goals and plenty media exposure - will most likely not get this in Pborough. Stay with Saints and both benefit - SM can hedge his bets if Saints offer deal extension with bonus payment linked to goals scored target BUT add in transfer fee trigger for next season and SM to get a proportion of fee say (25pc ) if deal agreed. Job done. Great first post KK, welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Think Saints need to think commercially while looking after SM's interests. SM needs game time, goals and plenty media exposure - will most likely not get this in Pborough. Stay with Saints and both benefit - SM can hedge his bets if Saints offer deal extension with bonus payment linked to goals scored target BUT add in transfer fee trigger for next season and SM to get a proportion of fee say (25pc ) if deal agreed. Job done. Great first post KK, welcome to the forum. Yes, welcome to Stevie May's agent Kevin James Is On Stilts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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