Sheffield Saintie Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Hopefully a few of us Yorkshire based Sainties popping along to see him tomorrow in the cup game. If there's anyone else thinking about it for tomorrow, let me know, and we can all meet up pre-game for a wee reminisce over our G&T's Gordon Drummonds Perm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I hope you Sheffield lads look after him. And if u have a top class bird, be worried, just accept it and just be Jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield Saintie Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I won't take my parrot with me then. Aitchy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkeld Fury Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'll never understand these Undisclosed Fee's, whats to hide? the fact that we have under sold ourselves? the Tax man will see this anyway, It certainly goes through tha books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnshire no More Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I'll never understand these Undisclosed Fee's, whats to hide? the fact that we have under sold ourselves? the Tax man will see this anyway, It certainly goes through tha books! One reason may be the attitude of the fans; spent too much or didn't sell him for enough. The other can be the attitude of other clubs and players. If a club is known to have a certain amount of money they they can be pressured into things they don't want or players can be priced beyond what they are worth. That has happened in the past and I am sure that any potential players we are looking at may be tempted to ask over the odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnshire no More Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 That Sevco rumour can't be true, surely - where would they get £800k? Well...looks who is claiming to be offering them £10M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 May definitely knew nothing of the Rangers "offer" anyway. I thought he was going to say "you also had r he chance to stay in Scotland with... St. Johnstone" and he said Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Seems like being the" Highest Paid " player in Saints history did not meet with Stevie Mays requirements.! personally, I think he owed Saints a years extension.! Steve Brown has obviously did his best to keep the player.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Seems like being the" Highest Paid " player in Saints history did not meet with Stevie Mays requirements.! personally, I think he owed Saints a years extension.! Steve Brown has obviously did his best to keep the player.! Absolute rubbish, you don't 'OWE' anybody in football. Its a short career, he has to do what's best for Stevie and his own future. I do love the high and mighty attitude of some football fans. bottom line was we were probably offering him £4k a week a maximum, yeah a tidy sum for most but from what i've heard Wednesday have tripled that offer. Are you trying to tell me you would turn down that sort of money if offered it over some misplaced sense of loyalty. Of course you wouldn't. SaintinReading, Lincolnshire no More, rammsteinally and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintinReading Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Agreed no such thing as loyalty in football . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiginasaintsstrip Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Agreed no such thing as loyalty in football . Football, pro-sport, e-sport, business, Money = loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldermoresensiblepack Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Agreed no such thing as loyalty in football . No fae the players anyways. croc and craiginasaintsstrip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) What is a "Misplaced sense of Loyalty" ? was it not him that stated on many occasions that he was in" NO HURRY" to move and was more than happy to develop his craft with Saints.! if he had extended his contract, he would as many believe earned St Johnstone FC. a much better transfer fee.! and probably a move to a Premiership Club.!I still say he owed us another season as our contributions through the turnstiles helped develop him over the last ten or so years. another year would have been best for the Club ,Himself, and for us fans.!IMO.!p.s. how could you know what kind of money "I" would bail out for.!? thats funny he he.!!! BTW I though Steve Browns statement very Classy.! Edited August 12, 2014 by croc dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 What is a "Misplaced sense of Loyalty" ? was it not him that stated on many occasions that he was in" NO HURRY" to move and was more than happy to develop his craft with Saints.! if he had extended his contract, he would as many believe earned St Johnstone FC. a much better transfer fee.! and probably a move to a Premiership Club.!I still say he owed us another season as our contributions through the turnstiles helped develop him over the last ten or so years. another year would have been best for the Club ,Himself, and for us fans.!IMO.!p.s. how could you know what kind of money "I" would bail out for.!? thats funny he he.!!! BTW I though Steve Browns statement very Classy.! Interesting view point. Or how about he played up at Dingwall on Sunday and done his ACL and was out of action for the next 12-14 months......!! Thus earning us nothing more than a development fee. Thats football, its a complete unknown. Lets just be happy with the 800k plus any additions we receive in the future and wish Stevie well for his hopefully 'massively successful' career down south or wherever it takes him. AthensSaint and sixties saintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Lets just be happy with the 800k plus any additions... How do you know what the fee was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 How do you know what the fee was? I've got very good contacts....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Your point of view is "Interesting" as well Colonel.!Reminds me of an "Alistair Darling" fear factor statement.!Or How about Stevie signed an extension and scored even Mair goals this season and had Premiership Clubs slavering for his services,After considering his last three seasons this,would seem the more likely scenario.! Maybe I have had too much confidence in his abilities.?As you say best of luck to him in his career and Big Thanks to Steve Brown for trying to make him the "Highest Paid" player in St Johnstone FC.s History.! Respect.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 What is a "Misplaced sense of Loyalty" ? was it not him that stated on many occasions that he was in" NO HURRY" to move and was more than happy to develop his craft with Saints.! if he had extended his contract, he would as many believe earned St Johnstone FC. a much better transfer fee.! and probably a move to a Premiership Club.!I still say he owed us another season as our contributions through the turnstiles helped develop him over the last ten or so years. another year would have been best for the Club ,Himself, and for us fans.!IMO.!p.s. how could you know what kind of money "I" would bail out for.!? thats funny he he.!!! BTW I though Steve Browns statement very Classy.!Agree,He could have signed an extension & it would have given Saints a bit more negotiating power. Saints would have let him go for a decent fee if he wanted to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Your point of view is "Interesting" as well Colonel.!Reminds me of an "Alistair Darling" fear factor statement.!Or How about Stevie signed an extension and scored even Mair goals this season and had Premiership Clubs slavering for his services,After considering his last three seasons this,would seem the more likely scenario.! Maybe I have had too much confidence in his abilities.?As you say best of luck to him in his career and Big Thanks to Steve Brown for trying to make him the "Highest Paid" player in St Johnstone FC.s History.! Respect.! Muzz had 2 great seasons for us, hardly missing a single game. Then back in january he takes a run to go up for a header and comes down with nobody near him. Result.............. he's not kicked a ball for 7 months. Its football, you cannot predict whats going to happen. As Steve Brown says, he had to do what was best for the Club, just as Stevie had to do whats best for Stevie. Lets agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 The press should definitely use the word "talisman" more imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Interesting view point. Or how about he played up at Dingwall on Sunday and done his ACL and was out of action for the next 12-14 months......!! Thus earning us nothing more than a development fee. Thats football, its a complete unknown. Lets just be happy with the 800k plus any additions we receive in the future and wish Stevie well for his hopefully 'massively successful' career down south or wherever it takes him. Had that happened, I guarantee nobody would have touched him. Take a look at Muzza. Clubs can't think like that or they'd never sign anyone. They have insurance to cover injuries too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 How do you know what the fee was? Agree, I think the £800k the press are quoting surfaced here first. I read an article online from a paper down Yorkshire way that initially said Rotherham had bid £1.2M plus add ons. That was when the bid was first placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinch Saint Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 From the courier:- http://www.thecourier.co.uk/sport/football/st-johnstone/we-couldn-t-stand-in-his-way-st-johnstone-boss-explains-stevie-may-s-move-to-sheffield-wednesday-1.518967 No player has ever been offered as lucrative a contract with St Johnstone as Stevie May — but last season’s top scorer had his heart set on a move to England. Saints chairman Steve Brown insisted he was left with no real choice other than to sell the club’s prize asset a few days ago, even if it was with a heavy heart. Football realism dictated that the £800,000 offer from Sheffield Wednesday (and Rotherham) be accepted. He said: “We made Stevie the offer of a longer term deal, which would have made him the best-paid player in St Johnstone history. “Taking everything into account, this genuinely is good business for the club. “Of course we’d have preferred not to be in a position where we had to sell Stevie but the reality is that if you block his way you end up with an unhappy player, you delay it and it causes all sorts of problems within the club, or you take the money now or risk getting precious little in the way of compensation further down the line. “It’s just the way of the world. Dundee United had to take £750,000 not so long ago for Johnny Russell when he had a year left on his contract. He was a full international when he went to Derby.” The Russell analogy isn’t the one that Saints fans — feeling May has been bought on the cheap by Wednesday — were drawing. They were looking at the prices paid for two other United players this summer — Ryan Gauld (more than £2 million) and Andy Robertson (nearer £3 million). Brown stressed, however, that the comparison is not a fair one. “I know United have sold Andrew Robertson and Ryan Gauld for big money but they had been prepared to sign long-term deals and they have gone to clubs in the Premier League down south or Portugal,” he said. “We had no bids from the Premier League but I suspect that’s where Stevie May is going to end up sooner or later. “I completely relate to the fans’ view. If I am sitting there in the stands, I’m trying to figure out what is going on. Why are we not getting more than this for a striker we have brought through the ranks and who scored 27 goals for us last season? “That doesn’t happen very often at this club and it was great watching him develop here but I have to work within certain parameters for the benefit of St Johnstone Football Club. “The bottom line was that Stevie didn’t want to sign another contract here. He wants to play in the Championship so we had to dismiss our previous thoughts and focus on the here and now. “The player has 10 months left on his contract and it was my duty to get the best deal possible for St Johnstone. There were no other viable options. When it became obvious the player was intent on going, we had to think what was best for the club. “In an ideal world we’d have been able to keep Stevie May but we don’t live in an ideal world. Now we have to look to the future and life here after Stevie May. And he goes to Sheffield Wednesday with our very best wishes.” May’s career path has been one long upward curve over the last three years — from scoring regularly in the lower leagues with Alloa, then Hamilton, to making his mark in Scotland’s top flight and helping them lift their first Scottish Cup final. Brown doesn’t envisage that curve changing direction. He said: “It could well be a stepping stone to the Premier League down south — and hopefully it proves to be just that for Stevie. Stevie is young and still developing and that has to be the ultimate goal for him. “I’d also like to think he is on track for an international cap for Scotland. It’s fair to say we’ve never been a club that gets recognised in that way. “It was becoming clear that he had enjoyed his time at the club and last season in particular. He has been here since he was 12 but he feels he has to evolve and develop. “Stevie is a young and ambitious guy – like some of the managers we have had here. Guys like Owen Coyle, Derek McInnes and Steve Lomas all headed south. We didn’t stand in their way. “When it became clear that was what Stevie wanted, we couldn’t stand in his way either. We had sat down and offered him very good terms to extend a contract which is up next summer. Believe me, we did all we could to keep him. “But the player wants to play in what is arguably a better division. “Put yourself in his shoes and the next logical step was always going to be a move to England. It is as simple as that. “The fact is that we can’t compete with offers from the Championship, which is one of the richest leagues in world football.” saintee in exile and Saintdunc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denzil Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Done and dusted, it's in the past now and going round the houses with if's and but's isn't going to change anything. Time to move on. Onwards and upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Stevie is unfortunately suspended for Sheff Wed cup game tonight - so it looks like we Yorkshire Saintees will have to wait for his debut against Derby on Saturday. http://www.swfc.co.uk/news/article/stevie-may-to-sit-out-county-clash-1822480.aspxHow can 2 bookings in any competition result in a ban unless they are in the same game ?. belfastsaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.