ex-montrosesaintee Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Just backs up my theory that Stevie May/Chris Kane's future resale value is directly related to their goal return. All strikers are judged on minutes per goal, amy other merit in their ability is overlooked. If we were looking to sign Steven MacLean just now, folk would moan that he scores less than 10 a season. Reality is that he's a key element to our team playing well. Scobby_SJFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Tbf he did play for Tranmere so he must be sh!te Tranmere Saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Might be a case of going down to come back up...he does well there, he might get a bit of interest from an SPFL side at some point Being pedantic but Morton area SPFL side. Scottish Professional Football League. think you mean a premiership club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuggets Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Tbf he did play for Tranmere so he must be sh!te He was pretty crap last season for the SWA. So would be happy if we did not go for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampshade Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Lots of people said Gary McDonald was crap ! He plays nearly every game who ever wee sign you have to give them a chance . andrew, GMac, mainstand and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Here's a legitimate idiot question for those more knowledgable. Stevie has signed a contract with which he is happy with. While that means he cannot leave without the clubs permission and appropriate compensation, does that also work in reverse? If we were offered daft money from an English premiership club, but Stevie didn't want to warm a bench down south, can he refuse to leave and see out his contract? I know it sounds a silly question, but folk talk of players having a buy out clause - so if club x offers £1.5m then the club have to let him go (for example). Would a club like saints include a clause that said if club x offers £1.5m and meets certain personal terms then the player cannot refuse to leave? Edited January 1, 2014 by montrosesaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 List of players that are out of contract at the end of the season. Murray Davidson, Steve MacLean, Alan Mannus, Nigel Hasselbaink, Brian Easton, Patrick Cregg, David Robertson, Steven Anderson, Gary Miller, Frazer Wright, Gary McDonald, Tam Scobbie, Rory Fallon, Callum Davidson, Liam Caddis*, Steve Banks, Dylan Easton*, Scott Brown*. * = under 20 Dylan Easton extended contract to May 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley saint Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Here's a legitimate idiot question for those more knowledgable. Stevie has signed a contract with which he is happy with. While that means he cannot leave without the clubs permission and appropriate compensation, does that also work in reverse? If we were offered daft money from an English premiership club, but Stevie didn't want to warm a bench down south, can he refuse to leave and see out his contract? I know it sounds a silly question, but folk talk of players having a buy out clause - so if club x offers £1.5m then the club have to let him go (for example). Would a club like saints include a clause that said if club x offers £1.5m and meets certain personal terms then the player cannot refuse to leave? Aye he can refuse and see out his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Here's a legitimate idiot question for those more knowledgable. Stevie has signed a contract with which he is happy with. While that means he cannot leave without the clubs permission and appropriate compensation, does that also work in reverse? If we were offered daft money from an English premiership club, but Stevie didn't want to warm a bench down south, can he refuse to leave and see out his contract? I know it sounds a silly question, but folk talk of players having a buy out clause - so if club x offers £1.5m then the club have to let him go (for example). Would a club like saints include a clause that said if club x offers £1.5m and meets certain personal terms then the player cannot refuse to leave? Yep,Danny Griffin turned down Derby , they had a Milllion and a half bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikey Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 After today I think a few boys out, who may already gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 After today I think a few boys out, who may already gone. BAWS!!Name one bar maybe Fallon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Lots of people said Gary McDonald was crap ! He plays nearly every game who ever wee sign you have to give them a chance . He is crap! Only one that can stay fit though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajs Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I dont have the chance to go to many away games, but is it the case that Gary McDonald plays much better at home than away from? Not seen him play badly this season at McD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 No, it's that he isn't flamboyant and exciting, so many people assume he is shit. One if our most consistent and solid players in my opinion. He was outstanding at Hibs, and decent in the United game last weekend. SundayGirl, stanley saint and rammsteinally 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley saint Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 But today he and the rest of the midfield were letting them play their game and even Keith lasley was show boating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wasn't there today SS, my comment was meant more generally. Does sound like a good few weren't at the races today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley saint Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have no idea why Gary McDonald gets the criticism he does. He's generally done really well for us, although like the rest of them, could weigh in with more goals. There is only one player in the squad who is contributing absolutely nothing to the cause and hopefully if we can get Michael O'Halloran as is suggested then we can pay him off and forget about him. dan loves saints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have no idea why Gary McDonald gets the criticism he does. He's generally done really well for us, although like the rest of them, could weigh in with more goals. There is only one player in the squad who is contributing absolutely nothing to the cause and hopefully if we can get Michael O'Halloran as is suggested then we can pay him off and forget about him. He's an easy target. I think he's been one of the better players over the games I've seen him. You're right about Fallon too. He's dreadful, a total liability and shouldn't be anywhere near the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 My heart sank when Fallon came on today. After the Aberdeen game, I'm afraid seeing him on the pitch again sent a very negative message about the team. ajs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 My heart sank when Fallon came on today. After the Aberdeen game, I'm afraid seeing him on the pitch again sent a very negative message about the team. I don't quite work that one out. How is it negative?? The guy was wrong to do what he did and was punished and I suspect he has been hit heavily in the pocket, Today we tried to change it and play with a bigger striker up beside May, there is presently no one else on our books so he went with Fallon. I think the proble we have in away games is that we need a sitting midfielder to do the ugly work and against United Cregg did it brilliantly, Cregg and Mac Donald sitting with Davidson getting a free reign is in my view the ideal midfield 3. livi saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) I fought the Fallon corner for a long time. I thought he deserved a proper chance to prove himself. All he has done is prove that he is miles and miles away from SPFL premiership standard. I've heard the 'bring the big guy on to win long balls' argument. I've yet to see him win a long ball and hold it up in any way whatsoever. He occasionally gets the top of his head on the ball and helps it into their keeper rather than just to their CHs. He's useless, and his red card against Aberdeen was a pathetic lack of respect for a club who have given him twice as many chances than he deserved to prove he isn't horseshit. Today he was rewarded with another chance. Edited January 1, 2014 by montrosesaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Gary Mac is a steady player,does plenty of good simple things to keep the ball or move it on when required.He does lack a yard of pace,as seen when the Celtic cb left him in his wake,but all our centre mids are the same apart from Midge if he's in there.Actually thought spoony might be better in there instead of wide,when he's lacking confidence,where his better pace and work rate might be suited Jenko82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 I have no idea why Gary McDonald gets the criticism he does. He's generally done really well for us, although like the rest of them, could weigh in with more goals. There is only one player in the squad who is contributing absolutely nothing to the cause and hopefully if we can get Michael O'Halloran as is suggested then we can pay him off and forget about him. I'm not a fan at all. Positionally poor and terrible ball retention. I feel in some games he's been good, snapping into challenges etc but when deployed in a more forward thinking role he's limited at best. No vision, no creativity. He's not going to score goals and not going to create them. Therefore unless he's doing a job defensively I think he's a liability. Chinese Eskimo and PerthSeany 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Can we leave these discussions to other more relevant topics please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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