Mad on saints Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: Maybe so but he has a contract with them so he could choose to sit and wait that out, unless they're willing to pay it off. It may be easier and more cost effective for them to just shove him back out on loan again for the final year. As far as I read they want him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad on saints Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 56 minutes ago, rik2304 said: No keeper news or ideas of who's coming in? Hopefully we can persuade Zander to stay rather than go United. But also heard possibly Scott Bain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 I REALLY don't want Bain because the idea of Parish against Celtic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern saint Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Looking back over my time watching Saints (over 60 years), sometimes due to injuries we have been forced to play many who were thought to be too young. Callum Davidson's first match, everyone was asking who's he. First fifty-fifty tackle and we were convinced. Griffin/McCluskey, recently, Kerr, McCann and Gordon. While I think for Zander's Scotland career, staying here would be best rather than be a bench warmer at Stoke, realistically, he's gone. Sinclair seems to have far more upside than any of the usual retreads who have been mentioned on here. He's at an age he could develop fast. Midfield will Davidson actually give a chance to Max, Gilmour over his normal failures. Not just five to ten minutes. Some actual consecutive games to get up to speed. Their industry would help Hallberg. I'm disappointed in Eetu's move. I thought he was raw but he had some fight about him. Maybe he showed Crawford up too much. I don't see any more signings. The squad was bloated. To me the skill set of the players shows 4,4,2 or 4,3,3. I know as managers struggle; they tend to become more negative in their approach. Hopefully, by giving a decent chance to those who wish to prove they belong in the team, we could have a more positive outcome. NormandyPict, saintee in exile, andrew and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Potter Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Northern saint said: Looking back over my time watching Saints (over 60 years), sometimes due to injuries we have been forced to play many who were thought to be too young. Callum Davidson's first match, everyone was asking who's he. First fifty-fifty tackle and we were convinced. Griffin/McCluskey, recently, Kerr, McCann and Gordon. While I think for Zander's Scotland career, staying here would be best rather than be a bench warmer at Stoke, realistically, he's gone. Sinclair seems to have far more upside than any of the usual retreads who have been mentioned on here. He's at an age he could develop fast. Midfield will Davidson actually give a chance to Max, Gilmour over his normal failures. Not just five to ten minutes. Some actual consecutive games to get up to speed. Their industry would help Hallberg. I'm disappointed in Eetu's move. I thought he was raw but he had some fight about him. Maybe he showed Crawford up too much. I don't see any more signings. The squad was bloated. To me the skill set of the players shows 4,4,2 or 4,3,3. I know as managers struggle; they tend to become more negative in their approach. Hopefully, by giving a decent chance to those who wish to prove they belong in the team, we could have a more positive outcome. There will definitely be a couple of signings before the window closes. We badly need a defensive midfielder and a striker and obviously a keeper. I agree the squad was bloated but is probably now too light after all the departures. We’ve lost a serious amount of quality that needs to be replaced. I fear for Gilmore. I’ve just not seen enough from him to suggest he’s good enough at this level. Hopefully he can prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 20 hours ago, Mad on saints said: As far as I read they want him away. Appreciate that but what I'm saying is he has a year left on his contract so they can't just ditch him. They'll have to either pay him off or try to find another club that's willing to match his wages (which seems unlikely), otherwise he'll be better off just sitting tight for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 10:52 AM, SaintJet said: We have plenty experts on here who know everything but the reality is we know nothing of what goes on behind the scenes... Davidson very publicly blamed him for our defeat at Ibrox and we all know that goal wasn't a direct cause of what he attempted. I can't remember a point in the season where he singled out anyone else and there were far better opportunities than the Ibrox one. NormandyPict and sixties saintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky6 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Clark - not replaced Rooney - not replaced McCart - replaced by Considine Craig - not replaced Bryson - not replaced Butterfield - not replaced Middleton - replaced by Wright Vertainen - replaced by Carey Hendry - not replaced Ciftci - not replaced Sound about right? …. pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Tricky6 said: Clark - not replaced Rooney - not replaced McCart - replaced by Considine Craig - not replaced Bryson - not replaced Butterfield - not replaced Middleton - replaced by Wright Vertainen - replaced by Carey Hendry - not replaced Ciftci - not replaced Sound about right? …. I'd say that Wright is replacing Rooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintee in exile Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Northern saint said: Looking back over my time watching Saints (over 60 years), sometimes due to injuries we have been forced to play many who were thought to be too young. Callum Davidson's first match, everyone was asking who's he. First fifty-fifty tackle and we were convinced. Griffin/McCluskey, recently, Kerr, McCann and Gordon. While I think for Zander's Scotland career, staying here would be best rather than be a bench warmer at Stoke, realistically, he's gone. Sinclair seems to have far more upside than any of the usual retreads who have been mentioned on here. He's at an age he could develop fast. Midfield will Davidson actually give a chance to Max, Gilmour over his normal failures. Not just five to ten minutes. Some actual consecutive games to get up to speed. Their industry would help Hallberg. I'm disappointed in Eetu's move. I thought he was raw but he had some fight about him. Maybe he showed Crawford up too much. I don't see any more signings. The squad was bloated. To me the skill set of the players shows 4,4,2 or 4,3,3. I know as managers struggle; they tend to become more negative in their approach. Hopefully, by giving a decent chance to those who wish to prove they belong in the team, we could have a more positive outcome. I'd be happy to give Max and Sinclair a chance but is CD too cautious.I think we know the answer to that.Disappointed to see Eetu away too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Tricky6 said: Clark - not replaced Rooney - not replaced McCart - replaced by Considine Craig - not replaced Bryson - not replaced Butterfield - not replaced Middleton - replaced by Wright Vertainen - replaced by Carey Hendry - not replaced Ciftci - not replaced Sound about right? …. I wouldn't see it like that. Clark - not replaced, but will be Rooney - replaced by Wright McCart - replaced by Consadine Craig - will be looking to Gilmour to fill this role Byrson - no replaced, but will be Butterfield - was a replacement for an injured Bryson anyway, so won't be replaced Middleton - replaced by Carey Vertainen - was an added extra the manager didn't want so won't be replaced Hendry - I'd say Bair will be looked to to fill this role Ciftci - was a stand-in for the injured Kane, so won't be replaced Essentially I think we'll be getting another centre midfielder to replace Bryson, and a 'keeper to replace Clark. I could then see perhaps an extra cheap loan coming in that might be able to cover a few of the attacking midfield/striker positions. R.B.B:- Adz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Gilmour won't make the grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 I think Max is gonna get his chance, grab it with both hands and we Ali McCann will be a distant memory. £5m Max! templeofsaints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Tricky6 said: Clark - not replaced Rooney - not replaced McCart - replaced by Considine Craig - not replaced Bryson - not replaced Butterfield - not replaced Middleton - replaced by Wright Vertainen - replaced by Carey Hendry - not replaced Ciftci - not replaced Sound about right? …. Our squad was way too big last season so it was never going to be the plan to replace all of these players. What we need is more quality, not quantity. For me we need a goalkeeper, a central midfielder and a striker and they all need to be better than what we have. pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintee in exile Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Shibbydoo said: I think Max is gonna get his chance, grab it with both hands and we Ali McCann will be a distant memory. £5m Max! Get him on a ten year contract so he isn't sold for peanuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Shibbydoo said: I think Max is gonna get his chance, grab it with both hands and we Ali McCann will be a distant memory. £5m Max! Its so hard to tell if a player has the potential to step up, when playing on tatty fields against physical opposition, but having watched Max a few times I'd love to see him given the chance. He has that charactetistic that McCann had that he always seems to create that extra time and calmness on the ball. He also hits a dead ball as well as anyone in our current squad. I fear that he won't ever get a chance though. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, saintee in exile said: Get him on a ten year contract so he isn't sold for peanuts! That would make no difference with our bargaining power! chips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 I guess his name was said three times: https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/3456483/joe-cardle-in-awe-of-kelty-hearts-hero-looking-to-break-into-st-johnstone-side-and-tips-saints-teammate-to-set-league-alight Shibbydoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintee in exile Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 hours ago, garydavidson said: That would make no difference with our bargaining power! I know I was being ironic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/3457263/callum-davidson-theo-bair-max-kucheriavyi-graham-carey-injury/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social Keeper and a forward in then Davidson will be happy with the squad. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted July 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Need a central midfielder as well pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, tucker said: Need a central midfielder as well really? if he is talking of young max stepping in there and he has Gilmour there aswell. would have thought we were well covered in midfield numbers wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, mainstand said: really? if he is talking of young max stepping in there and he has Gilmour there aswell. would have thought we were well covered in midfield numbers wise Repeating myself here but we 100% need a central midfielder. It really concerns me that Davidson is doing nothing to address an area that was a big problem for us last season. Shaggy Jenkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Davidson doesn't think we need a central midfielder, and yet we've lost 3. Are we really going with Hallberg, Davidson, MacPherson, Gilmour (& Crawford, although I imagine he'd play higher up) as our centre midfielders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezza70 Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Maybe we might get that from a loan, would love an old school hard nosed midfielder who controls the middle and can take a few scalps if required, unfortunately I don’t see us getting one of those rabbits out the hat. At best we are going to get an untried prospect or a lower division journeyman at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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