jhq Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Is it too cynical to suggest that Walter was brought in to move the season tickets and that he was always going to walk away after this was done? He'll probably be back next June.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 You are still not getting it, guys. This has nothing to do with football. Picture a wildlife documentary. Dead animal. Vultures, hovering overhead. Diving in, to grab a mouthful. Squabbling for a bit of meat before it dies. ITS NOT ABOUT FOOTBALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Is it too cynical to suggest that Walter was brought in to move the season tickets and that he was always going to walk away after this was done? He'll probably be back next June.............. Uncle Walter was definitely brought in to keep the fans happy, and give them some sort of incentive to buy season tickets, but I don't think he would have walked if Chuckles hadn't come waltzing back once all the cheques had cleared. Not sure how many season tickets would have been sold if dear old Uncle Walter has shuffled off in his baffies a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Who will be the Wright man for The Rangers?Hands aff ya fannies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sally at Kilmarnock next is my prediction. No club in the known universe would employ Sally as a manager. There will be a 6 month break, and then he will resurrect his media/tv career as jolly sally. I actually like the guy, and I hope he can put this nightmare behind him ASAP. nips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 You are still not getting it, guys. This has nothing to do with football. Picture a wildlife documentary. Dead animal. Vultures, hovering overhead. Diving in, to grab a mouthful. Squabbling for a bit of meat before it dies. ITS NOT ABOUT FOOTBALL. While I agree wholeheartedly with this, there are other complicating factors. First, Green is surely accountable for the returns to the investors he put together, so will do anything to get his rewards. What I don't understand is how an investment in a business that loses £1m a month can generate a return, but that's probably why I am skint and CG drives a fancy car. Secondly, there are 30,000-40,000 paying punters who demand to see the club survive. I am equally unsure how a company that is worth very little could just cease to be with so many people behind it. Fundamental issues I guess, but I can't answer them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sevco MUST survive!? What other vehicle would their knuckle dragging supporters choose to display their sectarian bile! I genuinely feel sorry for them. They don't have the savvy to realise they have been played for fools! Successive chairmen, and in particular Mr Green, deliberately played the sectarian card to get the fans on side and they fell for it hook line and sinker!? Did I say I was genuinely sorry for them!?! Hahaha let's all laugh at Sevco!? For every duff decision my 'wee diddy team' have had at their hands !? Bring it on I say, every time something else is reported I think it can't get any worse for them..and then!? You couldn't write a better script!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I can't bring myself to feel sorry for Sevco fans at all. Perhaps if they had behaved differently to filling up my Facebook feed with "you will all die without us" and "we will be back to get you" and "none of this is Rangers fault, it's a witch-hunt" and the like and actually acted with a bit of humility and acceptance that their predicament is ALL their own doing, then maybe, just maybe, I might have had an ounce of concern for them. But, due to the way they have behaved through all this.......F**K THEM Nold, Nelly78, chips and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I can't bring myself to feel sorry for Sevco fans at all. Perhaps if they had behaved differently to filling up my Facebook feed with "you will all die without us" and "we will be back to get you" and "none of this is Rangers fault, it's a witch-hunt" and the like and actually acted with a bit of humility and acceptance that their predicament is ALL their own doing, then maybe, just maybe, I might have had an ounce of concern for them. But, due to the way they have behaved through all this.......F**K THEM Aye, yer right. Feck them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 They even stole £200K from charity. Can this lot stoop even lower? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-23587678 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 They even stole £200K from charity. Can this lot stoop even lower? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-23587678 Nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me about that club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 I thought I couldn't be shocked again, but I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 John Brown been shooting his mouth off again I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 John Brown been shooting his mouth off again I see. Probably pished at the time of interview, spitting whilst talking and trying to role up his sleeves for a 'square go' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 That reads like the money was trousered by the administrators. As recent events at Hearts have confirmed, never fork out any of your hard earned to a football club, even one that you love, when it's in administration. You're as well setting fire to your money. They even stole £200K from charity. Can this lot stoop even lower? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-23587678 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 McCoist effectively given a "vote of confidence" so it's a matter of time.Tick-tock...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Maybe he can go back on Question of Sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) They even stole £200K from charity. Can this lot stoop even lower? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-23587678"The Rangers Charity foundation has and continues to donate? ? Millions" etc. Etc.Does make you wonder exactly how much is being creamed off.(added, allegedly) Edited August 6, 2013 by HOODLUM65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensan Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 The charity thing is a new low and yet another government agency with a fudged report. Found guilty of misconduct, but no action as 'they acted in good faith' by ensuring the match went ahead so that the charity benefited... Except... It didn't. The charity accounts have been floating around twitter for a few months thanks to @corsica1968 and they clearly show not a penny of the AC Milan money went to charity. It all went to RFC (in liquidation). Re: MontroseSaintees question re: how the 'investors' make money? Simples, Total investment to start up was 5m. From this 5m they have clawed back millions in a commericial deal (1m for Ashley) and approx 6m in 'salaries'. So they are ahead already. In addition they gave themselves a pile of 'penny shares'. Last time I check Green himself had over 5m of these 'penny' shares. The same shares went to being 'worth' 80p each when the club (sorry, company) floated in december. The only catch is they are not allowed to sell these shares within 12 months of the flotation date, which is december this year. Now, with 22m in the bank (to pay the operating expenses), plus the season ticket money from the 40k gullible best fans in the world they have just enough to make it to.... December. When of course Green and co will cash in (probably at 30 - 40p a share - but anything more than 1p see's them double their money) leaving a business behind which has next to no income and a 30m black hole over the next 12 months (hmmm, where did we hear that before). Of course there will be very few creditors this time around, as no one will give them any credit. However the 'debt' will be owed by the club (thats The Rangers FC ltd, and not Rangers International FC PLC for those not keeping up) to the holding company (thats Rangers International) for all the expenses that they have paid. Of course, this means only one thing - TRFC come up with a pile of cash to pay off the shareholders, or, and much more likely RI take the stadium and anything else that has any value to pay off the debt. After that TRFC will have no stadium which will be leased back to them (see, even more money for the original investors) and will have to live within their means (hahahaha). Problem with that is they wont have 40k fans coming 2nd to Celtic every year, which will see them fall further and further behind. Whereas most Scottish clubs are set up to survive on small attendances, Rangers NEED approx 25/30k a match just to break even given the cost of their overheads. There is still lots more to come... get the popcorn ready. PS - following this saga just reinforces how lucky we are to follow a real club! Nold and Pop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Where can I buy shares -looks a good price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Green on SSN, again saying Sally must win league and cup and relationship not good, Didnt get a good reception either from some off the fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Guy wants 14 million to sell and move out......Billionaire and friends want to see the club prosper and move on --14 million is chicken feed to a billionaire ISNT IT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 If I had £1000, I still wouldn't flush £14 down the toilet for no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calypso Kid Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 McColl won't buy him out, and can't until December anyway. It'll be frosty in a few meetings until Green can do his runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE REBEL SAINT Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 on and on this shambolic club just goes on and on!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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