MySpazz Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 She's not talking pish at all. She's bang on the money.. Chris Millar IS fit and available for selection but is being frozen out for some reason. He can't come out and speak about it but the club can and should. Time to cut the cloak and dagger pish. Millar is one of the Scottish Cup legends and if his time is up at the club, then the club should come out and say so. If it's something personal there is no great need for details, just a short and clear statement. That's the least he deserves. I personally hope he sees out his contract with Saints... There is no place for sentiment. He is an employee of the club and if they don't want him working on this season's project, then he has to either find another job, or get on with whatever they have told him to do. The club don't need to say a thing. They will continue to pay his wages regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm prone to believe HSF, she's not the type who'd make up rumours about players like Millar. A real shame if he has been frozen out to try and force him out, I've absolutely no doubt if TW told him he needed to move him on to free up wages then he'd have obliged to either finding a new club or taking a cut. “It’s worth noting that among the numerous contract renewals we secured in the early spring, there are other players who have restructured their deals in order to remain at the Club and I’m delighted with their outlook and understanding." http://perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/news/post/saints-chairman-steve-brown-interview I always assumed that SB's comments in this piece were alluding to the likes of midge, who may not always be guaranteed to start every game but were attached to the club enough to stay on and accept a lower basic. I'm possibly adding 2 + 2 and getting 5, but I can't think of many others who would have been in a similar situation. Craig maybe. Obviously we don't know the situation, but I'm not sure I like to think of Saints as a club that would force out a player who is as well thought of as Millar, especially one who still makes quality contributions to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 Is it to stop him being entitled to a testimonial ??? If that were the case then it would be a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 We've scored seven goals in our first theee games, all of which we have won. Ill just leave that there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) We've scored seven goals in our first three games, all of which we have won. Ill just leave that there. Why is that relevant? Has Chris Millar secretly been holding us back all these years? Edited August 22, 2017 by Kevin James Is On Stilts Kyle, PauloPerth, R.B.B:- Adz and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 “It’s worth noting that among the numerous contract renewals we secured in the early spring, there are other players who have restructured their deals in order to remain at the Club and I’m delighted with their outlook and understanding." http://perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/news/post/saints-chairman-steve-brown-interview I always assumed that SB's comments in this piece were alluding to the likes of midge, who may not always be guaranteed to start every game but were attached to the club enough to stay on and accept a lower basic. I'm possibly adding 2 + 2 and getting 5, but I can't think of many others who would have been in a similar situation. Craig maybe. Obviously we don't know the situation, but I'm not sure I like to think of Saints as a club that would force out a player who is as well thought of as Millar, especially one who still makes quality contributions to the team. ive been thinking much the same - wonder if because of his recent injury problems Broon has asked him to take a pay cut similar to Scobbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Why is that relevant? Has Chris Millar secretly been holding us back all these years? I think I might have post d that in the wrong thread. Carry on, nothing to see here...... Kevin James Is On Stilts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Chris has always been a favourite of mine and as can be seen here a lot of other Saints fans. The last couple of seasons has seen a stop start period with him picking up groin and thigh injuries. But the life of a football player is not a prolonged one and all good things must come to an end. If the manager does not want to keep Chris and wants to move on then we have to accept it, the club have lost other players from the cup winning side and some would say the loss of Fraser Wright and Cuptie was more of a loss. If Chris does stay and fight for his place then it will be up to him to show he is fit and able like every other player. No place for sentiment in football. Melbourne Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Chris has always been a favourite of mine and as can be seen here a lot of other Saints fans. The last couple of seasons has seen a stop start period with him picking up groin and thigh injuries. But the life of a football player is not a prolonged one and all good things must come to an end. If the manager does not want to keep Chris and wants to move on then we have to accept it, the club have lost other players from the cup winning side and some would say the loss of Fraser Wright and Cuptie was more of a loss. If Chris does stay and fight for his place then it will be up to him to show he is fit and able like every other player. No place for sentiment in football. I don't think anybody would dispute the club's right to move a player on if it was for the best of the team. It's the way they are seemingly going about it on this occasion that sounds concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I don't think anybody would dispute the club's right to move a player on if it was for the best of the team. It's the way they are seemingly going about it on this occasion that sounds concerning. Indeed, they made it very vocal concerning shifting Watson and Coulson so why is this one, if true, being kept so quiet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Is Watson even still with us? Coulson's release was never confirmed by the club and I haven't seen Watson anywhere recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) Is Watson even still with us? Coulson's release was never confirmed by the club and I haven't seen Watson anywhere recently. Is it to stop him being entitled to a testimonial ??? She's not talking pish at all. She's bang on the money.. Chris Millar IS fit and available for selection but is being frozen out for some reason. He can't come out and speak about it but the club can and should. Time to cut the cloak and dagger pish. Millar is one of the Scottish Cup legends and if his time is up at the club, then the club should come out and say so. If it's something personal there is no great need for details, just a short and clear statement. That's the least he deserves. I personally hope he sees out his contract with Saints... O Edited August 23, 2017 by Cagey Can't post without this stuff being attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Communication is the key. One of Saints failings. Midge is a favourite with most but hated by some. I am a great fan of his but have said last season that with all his injuries we should let him go but if that is happening LET US KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 He was injured twice last season. Only twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Strasser Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Pure speculation..... but thats what drives forums like these I suppose. Two sides to every story and we don't know either of them. It would be very sad if he wasn't recognised with a testimonial. His contribution has been no less than Ando or Cup Tie. mainstand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 He was injured twice last season. Only twice. HSF are you his agent?? how many games of the season did he miss with injury? Pretty sure he came off the pitch injured more than twice. Pat McGroin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 If there are discussions ongoing between player and club, these have to be allowed to play out. The club are not in a position to discuss this in public until that has happened. Anything other would be completely unfair on Midge himself. Would you want your employer shouting about your contract negotiations in public? HOODLUM65, templeofsaints and mainstand 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 If there are discussions ongoing between player and club, these have to be allowed to play out. The club are not in a position to discuss this in public until that has happened. Anything other would be completely unfair on Midge himself. Would you want your employer shouting about your contract negotiations in public? Similarly, vague social media posts from the player do not necessarily help matters. Just fuels the speculation even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 HSF are you his agent?? how many games of the season did he miss with injury? Pretty sure he came off the pitch injured more than twice. Yes I am his agent. Again why would I be making up how many times he was injured? Kyle and The ghost of Jim Morton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Yes I am his agent. Again why would I be making up how many times he was injured? Your stats contradict this www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-millar/verletzungen/spieler/36724 4 injuries last season out for more than 100 days. Edstar101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 It's called football.. all our cup final team are legends.. Personally I think he can still do a turn for us, but even as one of his biggest fans can see his best seasons are behind him! Plus and no bad feeling when I say this but there was a time when he was talking about playing his football in Australia.. which if he had followed through I would have given him my good wishes..my point is you can't have it all ways.. all I hope for is that both parties are treated with respect... like I say Cup Final Legend ;-) Havana Saint, templeofsaints and Saintdunc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Your stats contradict this www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-millar/verletzungen/spieler/36724 4 injuries last season out for more than 100 days. Transfer markt ffs Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 In fairness, Transfermarkt.co.uk is far more likely to know about Chris Millar's injury history than Chris Millar is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Stevie May was only injured once at Preston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Midge was injured more than twice last season,he broke down at Tynecastle after about half an hour and never played for a good wee while,when he came back he broke down a couple of times around the hour mark and had to be subbed.I hope he's not being mistreated by Saints,but if he's not TW's first team choice so be it,I'm comfortable with the choices being made thus far,he likes to rotate, but I'm hoping he sticks by his successful Line up mainstand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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