Jimmy Wallace Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 bit surprised at the lack of discussion about this. I don't mean on here, but in general in the media. Seems to me there is a serious likliehood of the Ukio Bankas administrators calling in the debt, forcing the sale of Tynecastle, plunging Jambos into admin or worse, seeing them docked points and relegated and thus saving the tinks. fergiefootball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Its been getting discussed on another thread Jim,but i know what you mean about the lack of media coverage on the subject,just to add to this anyway,Hearts have been trying to hold out admin. until they are safe in the league,they will be deducted 17 points,or hopefully the end of the season.My old Hearts (season ticket holder) mate says the rumours coming from there are very doom and gloom,theres even talk of total total shut down and this turning into another The Rangers fiasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 No problem, I expect the SPL/SFA will try everything to keep them in the SPL if they get liquidated, after all they have set a precedent now. And if that doesn't work, they will be invited to join Div 3 as 'The Hearts'. After all, it could be Armageddon if they don't. Dr Christmas Jones and rammsteinally 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Hearing there on BBC Scotland that Vladimir Romanov has suffered a stroke. Googled and came up with this http://local.stv.tv/...-lithuania-say/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Spl looking into their rules regarding insolvency to see whats to happen to the Jambos.One possibility is getting docked 17 points,which would relegate them.Whilst i'd really miss my days out at the Polwarth,it would be better for Saints imo,as Dundee would still be sh++,therefore saving us from any relegation fears,but would bring their big support to help fill our coffers. rik2304 and fergiefootball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Bring on the insolvency. We want Bomber and the Coagies back where they belong. Underneath us in the SPL. Wendy Saints and 541ntees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Dundee really are a jammy bunch. They got up into the SPL this season by default, and now it looks like they're going to stay up on a technicality.Not that I'm complaining. I like having them along for the ride.... garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) relegate them and wipe all their scores from the record books for the year. Inverness lose 5 We lose 1 County lose 2 Oh dear what a shame Edited May 16, 2013 by mainstand dave mc, 541ntees, Nelly78 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candalan Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Would the scum still be relegated, i.e. Dunfermline last season, and the 2nd placed team in the first comes up if hearts are docked? Thats how it worked when sevco went tits up. Dundee got promoted. Edited May 17, 2013 by candalan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Would the scum still be relegated, i.e. Dunfermline last season, and the 2nd placed team in the first comes up if hearts are docked? Thats how it worked when sevco went tits up. Dundee got promoted. The difference is that Hearts would only go down to First Division, as the relegated team. Last year, a team (if I remember rightly, I think they were called Glasgow Rangers) got righly punted out of the league set-up all together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Though I sympathise, I am far more concerned about my team being ready for Sunday against Motherwell and giving it their best shot. Wendy Saints and HOODLUM65 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Indeed Hearts would go down as the relegated team as the season is still in progress. From what I can get from the BBC article the SPL are looking through the rules with their lawyers concerning parent companies of clubs being insolvent. As has been confirmed UBIG has asked to be declared insolvent so the points deduction could kick in now and doom Hearts before the club itself is insolvent. "UBIG and their sister company Ukio Bankas, which has collapsed with debts of £380m, own 79% of Hearts' shares. Hearts owe £10m to UBIG and £15m to Ukio Bankas, who are in the process of challenging a bankruptcy order in Lithuania." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 lennon on ssn saying he wants hearts to stay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastered Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 A can of worms indeed. The SPL have to decide whether to deduct points before the end of the season (and therefore relegation) because the parent company has already requested administration, or not to deduct points because Hearts football club will have managed to fulfill or their match commitments before possibly going into administration themselves. There is little point making comparisons with Rangers, because the rules have been changed since that debacle took place. So I suspect it will really boil down to whether Donkeycaster etc 'want' Hearts to be relegated or not, and then they will interpret the rules to get want they want. I suspect their decision will be finance based, that is, will the SPL be better off with Hearts in the SPL or Div 1. Whatever happens, the Orks will feel hard done by having been dumped into Div 3, mainly because they are paranoid, incapable of logical thinking, and probably can't spell 'liquidation' or 'administration', let alone understand the meaning. So expect an increasing in grunting noises from the Glasgow area. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBored Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Much more muddier waters than with Rangers (and that is saying something)..God knows what is really going on.If anything, I'd expect 'punishment' to come next season rather than this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Much more muddier waters than with Rangers (and that is saying something)..God knows what is really going on.If anything, I'd expect 'punishment' to come next season rather than this one.Yeah I agree - plus it gives the like of Preston and Co to get some finance organised IF the bank calls the £10 million in - Cannot see die hard Jambo businessmen letting their club go to the wall----but you never know -thank goodness it aint Saints in that mess. ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 lennon on ssn saying he wants hearts to stay up Oh well, that's that then. uphallsaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mongy Max Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I would rather dundeefault stayed in as better crowds plus away day there. Promoted by default, staying up by default rik2304 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 While I expect most fans will see this as a dodgy situation for donkeycaster etc, whereas they will see it as a great opportunity to choose who gets relegated. Another sign of how shockingly Scottish football is run. Is it any wonder that clubs are being mismanaged, when they are expected to compete in a mismanaged league governed by a mismanaged association. Huge credit to Geoff and Steve Brown and their directors for achieving the impossible over the last three decades. Scobby_SJFC and uphallsaint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Though I sympathise, I am far more concerned about my team being ready for Sunday against Motherwell and giving it their best shot. Same here,are you heading to the Tulloch or Muirton suite pre-match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Same here,are you heading to the Tulloch or Muirton suite pre-match? ================ Molly Malones, Irish Bar, Glyfada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 lennon on ssn saying he wants hearts to stay up Ffs does that man never learn just to keep his big trap shut!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ffs does that man never learn just to keep his big trap shut!! He will probably criticise Scottish football clubs and their supporters IF he goes to pastures new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uphallsaint Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ffs does that man never learn just to keep his big trap shut!! NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 No punishment, Dundee relegated. No surprise really. Does Hearts potentially starting on -15 points next season make any difference to us. I'd like to think with the players we have committed - especially such a good goalkeeper - we won't be in a relegation battle next season? Not counting any chickens mind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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