RandomGuy Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Amy McDonald making comments about "only following orders" when a fans made a remark about how Foster should be leaving earlier for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristo Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I've read a Chris Millar comment that the crash happened "about 10 cars in front of our car pool" TW says other players made it on time from the same area. If they left 20 seconds before the other guys then yeah, they probably did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Honest Saints Fan Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I've read a Chris Millar comment that the crash happened "about 10 cars in front of our car pool" TW says other players made it on time from the same area. If they left 20 seconds before the other guys then yeah, they probably did. The other car missed it by 5 seconds. The accident happened about 12.30pm they've to be at McDiarmid for 1.30pm. So basically Tommy Wright is bang out of order having a go at the players. Some of the fans reaction is way over the top. How many people on here leave for their work hours before they are meant to arrive? cristo, Stumpy1949, Shaggy Jenkins and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just you the barman and the piano player then. Play it again Sam. Braw. Bar lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 The other car missed it by 5 seconds. The accident happened about 12.30pm they've to be at McDiarmid for 1.30pm. So basically Tommy Wright is bang out of order having a go at the players. Some of the fans reaction is way over the top. How many people on here leave for their work hours before they are meant to arrive? Last statement exactly, folk on the wider web demanding we sack Foster for it. How many folk get told to turn up at 9 in the morning for work and respond by arriving at 7? Even then they'd still have been late if they'd been caught in that traffic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I was there.....grim, grim fare. I had no idea about the Foster/ MOH situation, but with hindsight, the team certainly appeared to have a cloud over them. Don't quite see why Muzz and Paton are getting so mutch stick, killie would over run Saints without their contribution. Both work hard to help the defence, contantly bailing out the full backs. Both full backs seem to be searching for any kind of rhythm to their play, considering the Mackay/Easton dominant performances that were such an impressive feature of Tommy's tenure, this is a big miss and possibly the most significant factor in this misfiring formation. Strikers fairly anonymous, with Steven McLean's game becoming increasingly characterised by an economy of movement. Contrast this with the performance of killie, who bossed the 2nd half all over the pitch, and were worthy winners in a division where fine margins often settle the destintation of the points. This is going to be a long hard season...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Really don't know the rules about when a player is supposed to arrive on match day, but I would have thought a full time professional football player would be parking his car on match day a 12pm at the very latest, especially if things are not going well on the pitch, anything less is rank amateurism. 1.30? an hour and a half before kick off? Not good enough imo. I can absolutely see where Tommy is coming from. Is it really unreasonable to expect a professional 'team' to have lunch together and prepare for the immediate challenge ahead? I wonder if this has been an issue that has irked TW for some time and yesterday was the last straw. I remember when Paul Sturrock came to Saints he shook all that poor practice out of the dressing room, full time players should be full time and should be in early and ready to work no exceptions, no excuses....it served him and the club well. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 If the players are told to be at McD by 1.30 then it sounds to me as though Foster and co have done nothing wrong. In my experience of the A9 they have left in plenty time and but for this tragic accident would have been at the ground well before 1.30. The fault lies with whoever told them to be there by 1.30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) If the players are told to be at McD by 1.30 then it sounds to me as though Foster and co have done nothing wrong. In my experience of the A9 they have left in plenty time and but for this tragic accident would have been at the ground well before 1.30. The fault lies with whoever told them to be there by 1.30. I get the point about rules but they are not school kids, professionals should be a bit better than that, turning up with barely an hour to spare before kick off is just not good enough, and leaves the manager having to behave like a school teacher listening to excuses.....how unedifying. Edited December 3, 2017 by Smarmy Arab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 There are fans at McDiarmid before 12 for hospitality. Players should be arriving around that time imo. They hardly work full time, be lucky if it's 35 hours a week. fazman1977 and Smarmy Arab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 The other car missed it by 5 seconds. The accident happened about 12.30pm they've to be at McDiarmid for 1.30pm. So basically Tommy Wright is bang out of order having a go at the players. Some of the fans reaction is way over the top. How many people on here leave for their work hours before they are meant to arrive? This whole thing confuses me as someone who was held up by the crash and knew nothing about it until we reached the keir roundabout. The accident happened at 12.30ish there were no cars on the a9 in the queue behind the accident at 2.20 when we passed it. Some stories suggest the players did not arrive until 3.40 which was after us and we never left alloa until 2pm. When did they actually get to the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Like I said on an earlier post. I can't believe a professional club leave it up to the players to get there in time for kick off. Do they leave them to get a carry out of burger & chips for lunch. We have our own catering staff so the players should be there before 12 to have a light lunch & time for a team talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Totally agree Cagey. I would have expected them to be in for a pre match lunch well before 1.30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Having been in hospitality you see players arriving from 12 until well passed 1pm. If Tommy wasn't happy with the arrival time on match days he has the ability to change it! The guys said they were one of the first cars on scene. Maybe they witnessed it and had to give statements. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Really don't know the rules about when a player is supposed to arrive on match day, but I would have thought a full time professional football player would be parking his car on match day a 12pm at the very latest, especially if things are not going well on the pitch, anything less is rank amateurism. 1.30? an hour and a half before kick off? Not good enough imo. I can absolutely see where Tommy is coming from. Is it really unreasonable to expect a professional 'team' to have lunch together and prepare for the immediate challenge ahead? I wonder if this has been an issue that has irked TW for some time and yesterday was the last straw. I remember when Paul Sturrock came to Saints he shook all that poor practice out of the dressing room, full time players should be full time and should be in early and ready to work no exceptions, no excuses....it served him and the club well. Tommy controls it. If he's ever been unhappy about it he's had five years to change it. Taking it out on the players is just childish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I'm due to start at 9 tomorrow morning, If I walk, it will take me 20 minutes max, **** it I will leave the house at 7, just to make sure I'm there on time to cover all eventuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Killie fans got to Perth in plenty of time. We really are cutting it fine, if we are asking players to turn up 90 mins before kick off. I would have thought they were there from noon. Smacks of poor prep. Prepare together, play together. Smarmy Arab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Killie fans got to Perth in plenty of time. We really are cutting it fine, if we are asking players to turn up 90 mins before kick off. I would have thought they were there from noon. Smacks of poor prep. Prepare together, play together. Theres plenty of Kilmarnock fans complaining about only making it by half time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Is this 1.30 time now gospel just because someone mentioned it on the internet? If they were 30 minutes away at 12.40 then they were obviously scheduled to arrive in plenty of time then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Think the reported expected arrival time has been flogged to death. Yaaaawwwwnnnn. Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Surprised to hear the crash happened at 12.45 as i hit the Kier roundabout at about 2pm and had heard nothing about it on the news or radio. If I'd known I'd have gone via the Kincardine bridge instead of the random single track road i ended up on north of Dunblane. I presumed it had just happened. When i passed the motorway i could see a dozen or so arctics but didnt see a line of cars on the actual A9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Holly shit.. let's focus on this. This is form merits the sack if no improvement before Jan break/transfer window. Do you give TW time to bring in his standard dud loan signings and drift into the Championship or get a new gaffer with his dud signings that might retain top league status? TW losing the plot criticising travel arrangements... gets us fans distracted. Should look at himself first for lack of performances and points. I've not enjoyed 1 game this season so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Holly shit.. let's focus on this. This is form merits the sack if no improvement before Jan break/transfer window. Do you give TW time to bring in his standard dud loan signings and drift into the Championship or get a new gaffer with his dud signings that might retain top league status? TW losing the plot criticising travel arrangements... gets us fans distracted. Should look at himself first for lack of performances and points. I've not enjoyed 1 game this season so far! Neither have I. There is a complete lack of atmosphere and apathy about the place. I'm fed up going and I have been at nearly every home match for over 40 years. fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Tommy controls it. If he's ever been unhappy about it he's had five years to change it. Taking it out on the players is just childish Maybe TW is feeling the pressure. I did not hear the pre match interview, but I heard he was furious, with the individuals concerned. TW never struck me as a man who would needlessly criticise his players for a piece of bad luck. Perhaps the individual(s) concerned were needing a bollocking, it would appear the certainly got one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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