Strawman Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, blueheaven said: The Browns have often talked in the past about having a "rainy day fund" so I guess that's partly what's being used. As you say, it's just a shame that the club only ever seems to spend when it's to get us out of a hole, rather than to build on success. When we win cups and play in Europe, and have the opportunity to attract some genuinely good players who could perhaps help to kick us on a level, managers get nothing. When we're in danger of going down, the money appears. That was even true way back in the 90s when we splashed out on Billy Dodds to try to save our skin (and failed). My worry about this is that we aren’t spending the money to get out of a hole, we are spending money to give Callum a better digger to make the hole even bigger. Our transfer strategy baffles me, I think Clark might be an ok signing and face it, he doesn’t have to be that good to be better than what we have, but to be paying a fee for him and a 3 year deal, no resale value and unlikely a 31 year old has a lot of room for further improvement. When I first heard we were going for Clark, I presumed Utd wanted rid and he was available for free. Don’t know how reliable but people saying around 100k Going back to this hole, we will still need to spend to get out of it in the future, it will cost to get rid of all these guys on long deals when we finally get round to a new manager, unless of course Callum’s still here for the next 3 years, feck, that’s a thought. It scares me what our team is likely to look like next year. Edited August 31, 2022 by Strawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I think only having two strikers so far this season has caused a real problem (obviously there's the quality issue, but quantity has been part of it too). If just one of them gets injured or suspended, we're left with only one striker. And if we want to play two strikers at once (I know, I know), then we're left without a striker on the bench. Our attacking options on the bench have been really poor this season and for me we've desperately needed an extra striker. If May goes, then I'd say we need to bring in another one to replace him. I know we still have Kane too on top of all this, but it seems he may well be out for quite some time yet. And ideally MOH would have been an extra option up front but who knows what's going on there. I see what you're saying, but I would always go for quality over quantity. I'd suggest that in each position you need 2 players who can play there comfortably, and a third who do it at a push. Obviously a striker is a bit different, as Davidson may put 2 up front if chasing the game. I'd still suggest 3 natural strikers is enough. Put it this way: if you're playing 1 main striker every week, and occasionally throwing on a second, and you have (say) Cosgrove in that position, with Clark and Kane on the bench, what do you do with Bair and May? What do they really offer when they wouldn't even make the bench? blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Strawman said: My worry about this is that we aren’t spending the money to get out of a hole, we are spending money to give Callum a better digger to make the hole even bigger. Our transfer strategy baffles me, I think Clark might be an ok signing and face it, he doesn’t have to be that good to be better than what we have, but to be paying a fee for him and a 3 year deal, no resale value and unlikely a 31 year old has a lot of room for further improvement. When I first heard we were going for Clark, I presumed Utd wanted rid and he was available for free. Don’t know how reliable but people saying around 100k Going back to this hole, we will still need to spend to get out of it in the future, it will cost to get rid of all these guys on long deals when we finally get round to a new manager, unless of course Callum’s still here for the next 3 years, feck, that’s a thought. It scares me what our team is likely to look like next year. Indeed. Clark is a good signing, if he was free and on a 1 year deal. With a fee and 3 years is just baffling. What are we going to do with him when he's 34? I wonder whether Davidson feels that the only way we can attract players at the moment is offer them the security of a long deal, when other clubs wouldn't, but it stinks of kicking the problem down the road for the next manager to pick up. pezza70 and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Strawman said: My worry about this is that we aren’t spending the money to get out of a hole, we are spending money to give Callum a better digger to make the hole even bigger. Our transfer strategy baffles me, I think Clark might be an ok signing and face it, he doesn’t have to be that good to be better than what we have, but to be paying a fee for him and a 3 year deal, no resale value and unlikely a 31 year old has a lot of room for further improvement. When I first heard we were going for Clark, I presumed Utd wanted rid and he was available for free. Don’t know how reliable but people saying around 100k Going back to this hole, we will still need to spend to get out of it in the future, it will cost to get rid of all these guys on long deals when we finally get round to a new manager, unless of course Callum’s still here for the next 3 years, feck, that’s a thought. It scares me what our team is likely to look like next year. That's the scary part. Championship football with a squad of 20 odd players on premiership wages. pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Doidge to Killie on loan. I imagine he chose them over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, Linky said: Doidge to Killie on loan. I imagine he chose them over us. Were we definitely in for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Sergei said: Were we definitely in for him? It was one of the rumours flying around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensan Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Cagey said: That's the scary part. Championship football with a squad of 20 odd players on premiership wages. A competent management would have inserted relegation release clauses... Thats what worries me... pezza70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesainty Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 When does the window close is it tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, stevensan said: A competent management would have inserted relegation release clauses... Thats what worries me... To look on the bright side, at some point this season we could field: Matthews McGowan Gordon Considine Booth MacPherson Wotherspoon Hallberg Carey Clark Kane Bench: Sinclair, Brown, Gallagher, Phillips, Wright, Murphy, Bair Back up: Mahon, Davidson, Kucheriavyi, Ballantyne, Ferguson, Sandford I suspect that team/squad would keep us in touch with the other relegation candidates until January/February time. We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: To look on the bright side, at some point this season we could field: Matthews McGowan Gordon Considine Booth MacPherson Wotherspoon Hallberg Carey Clark Kane Bench: Sinclair, Brown, Gallagher, Phillips, Wright, Murphy, Bair Back up: Mahon, Davidson, Kucheriavyi, Ballantyne, Ferguson, Sandford I suspect that team/squad would keep us in touch with the other relegation candidates until January/February time. We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. There's Masters League teams with more pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. Think it’s a bit harsh to write Phillips off just yet. As for Montgomery and Mitchell, the latter has been that impressive, I suspect he’ll be recalled in January, and the former’s loan deal expires in January. Crawford is the only player on that list with a contract beyond the summer… Cleveland-Saint, Kilgour and Pat McGroin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Saint Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Linky said: Doidge to Killie on loan. I imagine he chose them over us. My Hibs mate is no fan of Doidge. In fact he says he is S**te! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.w Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dutch Saint said: My Hibs mate is no fan of Doidge. In fact he says he is S**te! He’d fit right in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: To look on the bright side, at some point this season we could field: Matthews McGowan Gordon Considine Booth MacPherson Wotherspoon Hallberg Carey Clark Kane Bench: Sinclair, Brown, Gallagher, Phillips, Wright, Murphy, Bair Back up: Mahon, Davidson, Kucheriavyi, Ballantyne, Ferguson, Sandford I suspect that team/squad would keep us in touch with the other relegation candidates until January/February time. We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. Mitchell is decent Scott1884 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Linky said: It was one of the rumours flying around Ok. So just speculation and possibly no choice to make. Interesting. Mr Dennis Wise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, Broggy Man said: Mitchell is decent Yes, Mitchel has been one of our better performers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 hours ago, blueheaven said: But up until this week we only had two fit strikers, and it clearly wasn't enough. Getting rid of May puts us back to only having two. I would be very shocked if May got moved on, just can't believe that would happen. Scored opener against ICT, scored last min in our only win of the season. Personally think he is played in the wrong position now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgscot Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: To look on the bright side, at some point this season we could field: Matthews McGowan Gordon Considine Booth MacPherson Wotherspoon Hallberg Carey Clark Kane Bench: Sinclair, Brown, Gallagher, Phillips, Wright, Murphy, Bair Back up: Mahon, Davidson, Kucheriavyi, Ballantyne, Ferguson, Sandford I suspect that team/squad would keep us in touch with the other relegation candidates until January/February time. We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. Are you actually serious on what you say. Try get rid. Three of them have just been signed by the club. Others given extensions. Then Montgomery is on load. Don’t need to try get rid on Montgomery just send him back. But he isn’t doing to bad. Parish has just extended so won’t get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltrane Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Rob said: Personally think he is played in the wrong position now. Not the only one..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dennis Wise Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Sergei said: Ok. So just speculation and possibly no choice to make. Interesting. Check oot captain sensible. Any signings need to be made by 2pm as Clum tees off in his medal at 2.45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dennis Wise Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 hours ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: To look on the bright side, at some point this season we could field: Matthews McGowan Gordon Considine Booth MacPherson Wotherspoon Hallberg Carey Clark Kane Bench: Sinclair, Brown, Gallagher, Phillips, Wright, Murphy, Bair Back up: Mahon, Davidson, Kucheriavyi, Ballantyne, Ferguson, Sandford I suspect that team/squad would keep us in touch with the other relegation candidates until January/February time. We must try to get rid of Parish, Montgomery, Mitchell, Crawford, Phillips, O’Halloran, May, Gilmour and Vertainen… get those 9 off the wage bill and bring in 3 players of real quality in January. We need a Chris Millar, a Dave Mackay and a Frazer Wright. You would be about the only option worse than Clum. With all due respect. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Rob said: I would be very shocked if May got moved on, just can't believe that would happen. Scored opener against ICT, scored last min in our only win of the season. Personally think he is played in the wrong position now. Agree about May being used in the wrong position. I'd use him further back on the pitch, but we're now overloaded with other players vying for the same sort of roles. Have to say I'm baffled by the number of people on here who seem to rate Bair more highly than May. May brings far more to the team when he's on the pitch. 9 hours ago, saintgscot said: Are you actually serious on what you say. Try get rid. Three of them have just been signed by the club. Others given extensions. Then Montgomery is on load. Don’t need to try get rid on Montgomery just send him back. But he isn’t doing to bad. Parish has just extended so won’t get rid. Why would we get rid of Montgomery at all when he was brought in to cover for two injured players who are still injured? PSJ.84 and pezza70 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 So do people think we'll get another arrival today? Who's the 34-year-old ex Hibs/United/Aberdeen/etc midfielder who CD wants to make the final piece (until the next one) of his one-paced geriatric jigsaw? Any of these guys take anyone's fancy? A four-year contract for Lee Wallace, maybe? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822 Kyle and rik2304 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, blueheaven said: So do people think we'll get another arrival today? Who's the 34-year-old ex Hibs/United/Aberdeen/etc midfielder who CD wants to make the final piece (until the next one) of his one-paced geriatric jigsaw? Any of these guys take anyone's fancy? A four-year contract for Lee Wallace, maybe? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62468822 Snodgrass allegedly according to reports in last weeks Sunday Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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