Steve Brown

[aagb1884]

4 minutes ago, Stumpy1966 said:

You have a very unfortunate habit of only answer part of my posts so not sure what negotiation you are talking about but if you are talking about the vine one why would you think he would start again after it had been agreed. 

i'm answering the bit where you asked a question. 

[aagb1884]

5 minutes ago, sixties saintee said:

You were doing no bad till you mentioned currant bun.

i mean, fair enough, they are scum.

[Pat McGroin]

40 minutes ago, aagb1884 said:

Think there was a Sun article around the time which, surprisingly given it's them, got it pretty much right based on what I've heard off the record: Tommy was fed up with the chairman and Kirsten Robertson, all those grumbles he had built up til it was untenable. Can't find the link though.

That doesn’t equate to a sacking, it was reported at the time that we let him go at his request, and I’m sure there was an agreement that Tommy wouldn’t take a job for X amount of time or we would be due compensation. 

There was certainly some animosity between Tommy and KR, but that may have been as much down to Tommy’s fiery personality as anything else. 
 

Tommy and Steve had a few head to heads down the years but always sorted things out, I was led to believe. 
 

I think Tommy wanted a break and chance of scene. It’s something he’s done in the past in NI too, just walked away from a job. 

[Broggy Man]

I think on balance Tommy wasn’t sacked it’s clear that some form of mutual agreement was reached hence Tommy couldn’t return to manage a Scottish club for some considerable time.

[MySpazz]

3 hours ago, TheYellowBox said:

I think we are probably sitting on a hefty sum in the bank.

Back of fat packet maths, but the club had c£2m in bank pre covid. The aborted season, we furloughed most staff, still got the season ticket money, sponsorship, tv and prize money, so probably not a huge loss.

Last season, club still banked the season ticket money, sponsorship, tv deal, prize money from 2 cups and played off a load of staff. Will have taken a hit, bit the £2m will have more than covered it.

This season, we have the covid loan (assume for now it covers just the covid losses), c £1m from Europe and now £1.8m in transfer fees up front.

If you assume the loan or the £2m covers covid, you would have to say we have around £5m minimum in the bank right now. £2m already, plus £1m european and then £1.8m transfers. There will of course be delays in Euro Prize money and transfer fees etc, but roughly, that is what we should have. Even if you were really negative and say covid cost us double, we should still have £3m. 

And these figures are equal if not below our rivals in the top 6.

 

 

[MySpazz]

Brown knows what's out there and what a deal is.

These people are misers!

[Melbourne Saint]

10 hours ago, MySpazz said:

And these figures are equal if not below our rivals in the top 6.

 

 

I genuinely do not consider us to be a top 6 contender. 8/9th.

[rik2304]

Had Geoff not seen sense and removed this coward yet? 

[andy rhodes fancy watch]

1 hour ago, rik2304 said:

Had Geoff not seen sense and removed this coward yet? 

Auld senile Geoff didn't even know winning the conference play off round got you into the group stages...

[Abernethy Saint]

5 minutes ago, andy rhodes fancy watch said:

Auld senile Geoff didn't even know winning the conference play off round got you into the group stages...

Hope he’s not senile. I was behind him in the car queue before the LASK game. His car is bigger than most houses. He had a huge grin on his face. Got waved through with much “Mr Brown, sir”-ing. I told the car park guy “ I’m with Mr Brown”. 

Turns out the car park guy a) Does not have a sense of humour, and b) Knows a LOT of swear words.

[Stumpy1949]

3 hours ago, andy rhodes fancy watch said:

Auld senile Geoff didn't even know winning the conference play off round got you into the group stages...

Might have been tongue in cheek but not very nice description. How many people did actually understand the European qualifying rules. 

[slf]

6 hours ago, rik2304 said:

Had Geoff not seen sense and removed this coward yet? 

Where are you 

[slf]

4 hours ago, andy rhodes fancy watch said:

Auld senile Geoff didn't even know winning the conference play off round got you into the group stages...

Has he been diagnosed 

[rik2304]

31 minutes ago, slf said:

Where are you 

I'm spoken for. Thanks though.

[Abernethy Saint]

5 minutes ago, rik2304 said:

I'm spoken for. Thanks though.

Is Monty the jealous type?

[slf]

19 minutes ago, rik2304 said:

I'm spoken for. Thanks though.

Not what I meant . Your a coward 

[slf]

6 hours ago, rik2304 said:

Had Geoff not seen sense and removed this coward yet? 

Has Geoff removed you yet ?

[rik2304]

11 minutes ago, slf said:

Not what I meant . Your a coward 

 

[Shibbydoo]

On 9/1/2021 at 6:57 AM, Shibbydoo said:

F*CK you Steve Brown!

F*CK you.

After calming down a wee bit I'd like to revise my statement.

But please don't do that to us again, the club were in control, have some balls.

Saints forever (no matter the pain)!!!

[byebyedundee]

12 minutes ago, Shibbydoo said:

After calming down a wee bit I'd like to revise my statement.

But please don't do that to us again, the club were in control, have some balls.

Saints forever (no matter the pain)!!!

Personally not being a big fan of the guy I must say his statement is spot on and i can only shake his hand and congratulate him on the transfer window

[Templar Saint]

39 minutes ago, byebyedundee said:

Personally not being a big fan of the guy I must say his statement is spot on and i can only shake his hand and congratulate him on the transfer window

You, Stevie and hand shaking ..........is there not history there!!!!!!

[Sheldo]

Here is an article of Tommy's actual words on leaving saints. Yes, it's the Daily Record but its at least 5% better than the Scum https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tommy-wright-opens-up-st-21963044

"Sacking" or not, Wrights replacement has become our most successful manager ever in one season, so his departure was to our benefit.

[saintgscot]

Omg we are not Celtic we are a selling club always have been. We have to sell players to help survive.

[Brian Potter]

6 minutes ago, saintgscot said:

Omg we are not Celtic we are a selling club always have been. We have to sell players to help survive.

I think you’ll find Celtic are very much a selling club.

[Sheldo]

On 9/1/2021 at 8:13 AM, aagb1884 said:

Looking back at his record:

• Stevie May scores 27 goals in 2013-14, and goes for around £800k + add ons. The transfer was accepted by the chairman with May unclear as to whether he was staying or going (comparison: Nisbet scored 18 goals last season, Hibs rejected a transfer request for him and value him at £5 mill)
• Failure to use the Scottish Cup win as a platform for...anything really.
• Hires Roddy Grant to do...something? On a decent wage anyway.
• Hires Kirsten Robertson to basically do the day to day work of being chairman because he can't be ****ed with it
• Drey Wright is one of many players who wants to stay, the manager wants them to stay, but negotiations are so slow and frustrating that he leaves
• Stevie May returns, held up by his agent demanding an extra condition on his contact, and rather than simply go 'No' or negotiate something Steve Brown goes into a rage and refuses to sanction the transfer, much to Tommy Wright's confusion
• Wallace Duffy leaves on a permanent deal instead of a loan because someone used the wrong form
• Tommy Wright, our then most successful manager, is sacked because he's fed up with the chairman/Robertson
• We sign someone frmo Finland and don't have the paperwork to get him a work permit
• We accept a £200k bid for Jason Kerr from Charlton. £200k.
• Having said it would take a figure higher than £1.75m to buy Ali McCann, we accept one around £1-£1.2mill with add ons. Adds ons take figure to £2m before sell on fees.
• Replacements for these players are all loans. No new striker. Defensive replacements are inexperienced. Not totally sure why we needed a new midfielder.
• We still have players likely to leave for nothing at the end of the season.

 

Have I missed anything?

 

Sorry but this is all crap!

1) May was always going, his contract was ending that season, his agent instructed him not to sign a new one, so we cashed in.

2) We have been in the Premier League for the longest stretch of time I can remember (been supporting saints since 1995 when we were in the 1st division), we won 2 cups last season and have hit the top 6/Euro qualification several times in the last 10 years. We are the "Yo-yo" club that doesn't seem to yo-yo that much any more, save for in and out of the top 6.

3) Roddy is a director. Previously he was an associate director and before that a Lotto administrator. He's Saints through and through and a good ambassador for the club and is well respected in the game.

4) Sensible thing to do and has been done at many clubs over the years, including Saints. Back in the day Stewart Duff did a lot of the day-to-day running for Geoff.

5) Drey Wright couldn't agree a deal, we had no manager at the time but overall wasn't a huge loss even tho he was a decent player.

6) Stevie May's contract was held up by Rowan Vine being a t***. May punted Vine anyway and Saints got their man. This also kinda cancels out point one as we got the cash then got the player back.

7) Wallace Duffy has played about 15 times since joining Inverness. He has been no real loss.

8) I have never seen any solid evidence to show that Wright was sacked (see my last post from the Record article). "Off the record" claims can be little more than Chinese whispers.

9) Thanks to Brexit, work permits are a massive bugger for all professions.

10) "£1-£1.2mill with add-ons. Adds-ons take figure to £2m before sell on fees." Which is more than £1.75 million! Ali made it clear he wanted to leave.

11) Yes, loans are not ideal, but we have cover. We got a new midfielder because we just sold one plus Craig and Davidson have a combined age of 67. Striker is now here and training and we still have other defenders that are experienced. We can also still sign free agents outwith the window

12) Yes, and so will every other club. I'd hazard a guess here tho that now we have money from the sales of Kerr and McCann and the dust has settled on Europe and we can get fans back in bringing in much needed ££, Brown and Callum can start looking at budgets to get players on new deals.

Steve Brown ain't no saint (pun fully intended!) and yes, not everything is perfect. I do think McCann could have gone for more. But we always balance the books, we still don't know what fun and game swill be thrown up by Covid, having has 1.5 years now without fans and I'd far rather have him and Roddy than Charles Green, Craig White, the Kelly Family, The Marrs, Di Stefano, Romanov or any of the other idiots that have ruined clubs in Scotland over the years.