bluesaint Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Shibbydoo said: Stevie May - legend but cheerio. Callum Davidson - legend but cheerio. Can’t say I disagree with this post, other teams have made the change and are reaping immediate rewards, Maloney in at hibs comes to mind. I think we are all immensely proud that our wee club has always stuck by our managers to an extent but enough is enough… I fear that if we don’t turn this around and go down it could be a very long time to get back up again. on a plus point though we aren’t cut adrift yet so a couple of positive results would move us up again and the confidence that would bring us would be priceless. Smarmy Arab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibbydoo Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 I just don't see us getting a couple of positive results with this style of play. Does anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Shibbydoo said: I just don't see us getting a couple of positive results with this style of play. Does anyone? Nope . Don’t think the players give a flying fuq anymore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shibbydoo said: I just don't see us getting a couple of positive results with this style of play. Does anyone? Callum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 26, 2021 Report Share Posted December 26, 2021 Too many Championship, or lower, players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 21 hours ago, MySpazz said: Top of the list is Stevie May who may has been a complete waste of space since re-signing. He'll be getting a good salary, that of two players is my guess, and we have gone and brought up English academy players who are just not ready for a Premier League. I'm not sure I'd list May as one of the worst offenders. It's not as if the rest of the team is creating chances for him which he keeps missing. He spends most of the game tracking back and coming deep to try to get the ball, because if he didn't he'd never get a touch. But it means that when he does get the ball he's nowhere near goal and we either lose it or go backwards. That said, sometimes I think a striker needs to look up, take more initiative and make things happen for themselves by being a bit more positive and drive forward when they get the ball. I feel like I've seen glimpses of Eetu being that sort of player when he's been on the pitch, but May just isn't going to give us that. I don't think he has the legs for it any more. And he's never been someone who has thrived on crosses, even during his most prolific season. Which does leave me wondering if there's room for him in the team any more. With the options we have at the moment, I'd like to see us start a game with a Kane, Viv and Eetu frontline, but I have no idea what Davidson actually thinks of as his preferred attack (or midfield, come to think of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 But for Zander & Crawford against United it would be 13 games without a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott1884 Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 Letting Kerr & McCann go on the last day of the transfer window was a big mistake & we were left looking for loans /& frees to replace them. Obviously Kerr was in a strong posiition as he could sign a PCA in Jan so getting £600k for him was probably the best we could do. However McCann had 2 yrs left on his contract & SB should've made it clear to him & his agent that if we didn't get at least £2m he was going nowhere. Yes he would've been unhappy but other clubs don't cave in like us. MySpazz and akuram 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 Looking ominous for Saints, reminds me of when Utd went down. We sold GMS, Armstrong, Shifty, in a quick succession this was compounded by letting go: Fojut, Gardyne, Erskine players who might not be the same class as the A list, but still seasoned top flight performers. Similarly losing Kane an Spoony has been a huge blow, at the worst moment. All is not lost, it’s only half time and if anyone deserves a shot at correcting this it’s CD. Couple of decent signings in Jan and this team can get back to the well drilled performances the coaches instilled so effectively last season. I think the winter break arrived at the right moment for Saints (and United!). so let’s raise a glass (half full) and enjoy New Year! All the best my WAP friends, I hope you and yours are blessed in the coming year! Xxx MySpazz, Coltrane, Saintdunc and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 55 minutes ago, Smarmy Arab said: Looking ominous for Saints, reminds me of when Utd went down. We sold GMS, Armstrong, Shifty, in a quick succession this was compounded by letting go: Fojut, Gardyne, Erskine players who might not be the same class as the A list, but still seasoned top flight performers. Similarly losing Kane an Spoony has been a huge blow, at the worst moment. All is not lost, it’s only half time and if anyone deserves a shot at correcting this it’s CD. Couple of decent signings in Jan and this team can get back to the well drilled performances the coaches instilled so effectively last season. I think the winter break arrived at the right moment for Saints (and United!). so let’s raise a glass (half full) and enjoy New Year! All the best my WAP friends, I hope you and yours are blessed in the coming year! Xxx And here’s me thinking all Utd fans are arrogant , well said smarmy , we need both Dundee teams in the top flight. sixties saintee and Smarmy Arab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmy Arab Posted December 29, 2021 Report Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: And here’s me thinking all Utd fans are arrogant , well said smarmy , we need both Dundee teams in the top flight. I have many faults Ginge, but arrogance is not one of them…..I know too much to ever be arrogant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 Minority post, loud mouths! Davidson going no where. To think he is out, where you been living last 30 years you glory hunter..... sigh. A. We cant afford to get rid, No other reasons required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 hours ago, Dave H said: A. We cant afford to get rid, I'd say that's very much open to dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted December 30, 2021 Report Share Posted December 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I'd say that's very much open to dispute. As I’ve said before, either Callum will get us out of the shit, in which case he should stay, or we will be relegated, in which case a no-cost relegation contract clause would surely kick in. No money needs to be spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 21 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said: As I’ve said before, either Callum will get us out of the shit, in which case he should stay, or we will be relegated, in which case a no-cost relegation contract clause would surely kick in. No money needs to be spent. I don't agree with that. I think if Davidson's changes over the transfer window don't work out he'll be sacked and another manager will be given a chance to keep us up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, blueheaven said: I don't agree with that. I think if Davidson's changes over the transfer window don't work out he'll be sacked and another manager will be given a chance to keep us up. Should be sacked if he signs Crawford I don't know a Saints fan who thinks he would be a good signing. south inch, crieffsaintandy and R.B.B:- Adz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, Cagey said: Should be sacked if he signs Crawford I don't know a Saints fan who thinks he would be a good signing. @mainstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: I don't agree with that. I think if Davidson's changes over the transfer window don't work out he'll be sacked and another manager will be given a chance to keep us up. I think that’s what you would like to happen, rather than what will. It would be March at the very least before any changes could be said to have worked or not. It’s much more likely to go down to the wire, right up to and possibly including the play-offs. There may not be a point at which you could say “that’s it” until the end. Even if there was, you then have to find another manager, just at the point where many are involved in promotion/relegation battles of their own. Just about the only available, realistic candidate you could think of right now would be Tommy, and that would be a very odd appointment. Possibly McInnis (can’t spell that) but I expect he’ll be looking for something much more promising. I’d be very, very surprised if Callum went before the issue was settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: I don't agree with that. I think if Davidson's changes over the transfer window don't work out he'll be sacked and another manager will be given a chance to keep us up. Or, more long term, aim to return us to the promised land, should the worst happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 22 minutes ago, Abernethy Saint said: I’d be very, very surprised if Callum went before the issue was settled. You may well be right but if the current rumour that he has signed Crawford on a permanent deal is correct then I feel I should answer a question you posed in an earlier post. To get to Cove you first head for Stonehaven, I would take the A92 but many prefer the A90. From Stonehaven you take the A92 until it crosses the A956 when you turn right and head towards Altens, I understand the Balmoral Stadium is well signposted after a few miles. Abernethy Saint and Saintdunc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Abernethy Saint said: I think that’s what you would like to happen, rather than what will. It's really not - it's what I think will happen. I can't see the board hanging around until the end of February with Davidson still in charge if we're still losing games and failing to score any goals and there's no sign of improvement. Relegation could be disastrous for the club and I don't think the board will just sit on their hands and watch us get relegated without taking some action to try to rescue the situation. I think Plan A to keep us up is new signings, but if those signings don't hit the ground running I expect we'll move to Plan B which will be a change of manager. I also think the board will already know who they want to come in to replace him, if it reaches that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Steve Brown will put St Johnstone ahead of Callum Davidson. If he doesn't think he'll do the job then he'll be punted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy1949 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said: I think that’s what you would like to happen, rather than what will. It would be March at the very least before any changes could be said to have worked or not. It’s much more likely to go down to the wire, right up to and possibly including the play-offs. There may not be a point at which you could say “that’s it” until the end. Even if there was, you then have to find another manager, just at the point where many are involved in promotion/relegation battles of their own. Just about the only available, realistic candidate you could think of right now would be Tommy, and that would be a very odd appointment. Possibly McInnis (can’t spell that) but I expect he’ll be looking for something much more promising. I’d be very, very surprised if Callum went before the issue was settled. You forgot about Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templeofsaints Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, blueheaven said: It's really not - it's what I think will happen. I can't see the board hanging around until the end of February with Davidson still in charge if we're still losing games and failing to score any goals and there's no sign of improvement. Relegation could be disastrous for the club and I don't think the board will just sit on their hands and watch us get relegated without taking some action to try to rescue the situation. I think Plan A to keep us up is new signings, but if those signings don't hit the ground running I expect we'll move to Plan B which will be a change of manager. I also think the board will already know who they want to come in to replace him, if it reaches that point. I agree with this - the board will definitely have someone lined up if Callum has to go (the recent PNE rumours might have kick-started the process earlier). Broon will have a shortlist of names in his drawer. And its not as if the Saints job isnt an attractive one. I think Callum will do enough to keep himself in place though but it does depend on the signings coming in - Cleary is one we know about (and probably due to get announced at the start of the week). I hope the Crawford story isnt true - not bothered about his loan being extended but hes not done anything like enough to warrant a permanent deal. This season will go to the wire - hopefully we've done enough after the winter break to get some optimism and confidence back in the team - thats almost as big a requirement as new faces in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, templeofsaints said: I hope the Crawford story isnt true. It is, the manager confirmed our intention to sign him permanently in December and the Bolton manager confirmed today it was likely to happen too. If it had fallen through we'd know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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