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  1. 10 points
    SaintJet

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    I think you'll find that now that the dust has settled and the detail of the deal is known fans are starting to see the bigger picture and a lot of that anger has dissipated. Fans are always unhappy when one of their favourites leave that will always be the case. I totally disagree with all your points. St.Johnstone are a business that is the envy of every club in Scotland.
  2. 9 points
    Saintdunc

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Personally, I think it is a shame that we are taking the *iss out of a signing we have not yet seen wearing the shirt. We are short of experienced defenders and the youngsters will benefit. All our other signings have got a specific length of contract which have been announced in club statements. He may be on a pay per match, short term or long term contract but, until I have seen him on the field off play, I will not be praising or criticising his ability or lack of it. He is a CD signing and he must have seen something to warrant bringing him on board.
  3. 9 points
    So we’ve just had the most glorious 6 months as a Saintee Supporter and your whining .. The Dream is still alive we’re double cup holders calm down and reflect on our achievements then start crying when we’ve got 309 fans against Albion Rovers and are bottom of the 2nd division
  4. 8 points
    Lubolzer

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Here's my thought on this. Ali McCann away to Preston in the english "2nd division". No chance of winning anything but will be earning a lot more money than he did at saints. Jason Kerr away to Wigan in the english "3rd division". No chance of winning anything but will be earning a lot more money than he did at saints. We are left with this question. How can an English 3rd division team pay more money than a Scottish premier league team? Here's the answer. Sky Sports. If you are a St Johnstone supporter and are paying a subscription to Sky Sports I would suggest that you cancel your subscription. You are part of the problem.
  5. 7 points
    Abernethy Saint

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Yes, but apart from all of them, what have the over-30’s done for us?
  6. 7 points
    He's not an emergency loan, nor is he from London. A really really good post otherwise.
  7. 6 points
    Cancel the above, 2 tickets bought over the phone to be be collected from SLO at the ground :)
  8. 6 points
    Very much so. Other than the Celtic game at the end of last season when we were Covid-ravaged, we have been in every single game under CD. Actually, the worst performance was probably the one game where he started with a back four, away to Livingston, which is what makes me think he's not likely to rush back to that in a hurry. Even the 3-0 defeats to Rangers, we played well but just made bad errors at silly times. As said though, you haven't really come away from a single game under CD thinking we've been massively second best there. The only really disappointing game this season has been United, where he should have made more changes. Other than that, we are playing well and that's what you are looking for at this stage of the season. That points you far more towards where you'll be in May than spawning a few undeserved wins. That's another benefit of being in this league so long, you kind of know how it pans out. First season up we were playing well but not getting results. They came. The first full season under Lonas. Likewise. Then again last season. So much to be pleased with on Saturday but the way the manager got a new defence gelled is really encouraging. The competition between Muller, Dendoncker, Ambrose and now maybe Brown for that spot beside Gordon and McCart is going to be fierce and should really bring something out of hopefully at least a couple of them. Three tough games coming up and results might not fall our way yet but if the performances are there again, there will be no need to become concerned.
  9. 6 points
    slf

    Steve Brown

    Correct
  10. 6 points
    Sheldo

    Steve Brown

    Sorry but this is all crap! 1) May was always going, his contract was ending that season, his agent instructed him not to sign a new one, so we cashed in. 2) We have been in the Premier League for the longest stretch of time I can remember (been supporting saints since 1995 when we were in the 1st division), we won 2 cups last season and have hit the top 6/Euro qualification several times in the last 10 years. We are the "Yo-yo" club that doesn't seem to yo-yo that much any more, save for in and out of the top 6. 3) Roddy is a director. Previously he was an associate director and before that a Lotto administrator. He's Saints through and through and a good ambassador for the club and is well respected in the game. 4) Sensible thing to do and has been done at many clubs over the years, including Saints. Back in the day Stewart Duff did a lot of the day-to-day running for Geoff. 5) Drey Wright couldn't agree a deal, we had no manager at the time but overall wasn't a huge loss even tho he was a decent player. 6) Stevie May's contract was held up by Rowan Vine being a t***. May punted Vine anyway and Saints got their man. This also kinda cancels out point one as we got the cash then got the player back. 7) Wallace Duffy has played about 15 times since joining Inverness. He has been no real loss. 8) I have never seen any solid evidence to show that Wright was sacked (see my last post from the Record article). "Off the record" claims can be little more than Chinese whispers. 9) Thanks to Brexit, work permits are a massive bugger for all professions. 10) "£1-£1.2mill with add-ons. Adds-ons take figure to £2m before sell on fees." Which is more than £1.75 million! Ali made it clear he wanted to leave. 11) Yes, loans are not ideal, but we have cover. We got a new midfielder because we just sold one plus Craig and Davidson have a combined age of 67. Striker is now here and training and we still have other defenders that are experienced. We can also still sign free agents outwith the window 12) Yes, and so will every other club. I'd hazard a guess here tho that now we have money from the sales of Kerr and McCann and the dust has settled on Europe and we can get fans back in bringing in much needed ££, Brown and Callum can start looking at budgets to get players on new deals. Steve Brown ain't no saint (pun fully intended!) and yes, not everything is perfect. I do think McCann could have gone for more. But we always balance the books, we still don't know what fun and game swill be thrown up by Covid, having has 1.5 years now without fans and I'd far rather have him and Roddy than Charles Green, Craig White, the Kelly Family, The Marrs, Di Stefano, Romanov or any of the other idiots that have ruined clubs in Scotland over the years.
  11. 6 points
    Melbourne Saint

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Yes, I don't buy into the whole "he wanted to try his luck in England". Sorry, but Ali McCann's desires do NOT COME BEFORE CLUB. He's contracted by mutual agreement for 2 F*CKING SEASONS.Why the rush to sell? If he has a release clause, tell us! If he doesn't... someone please explain... Morelos has been after a move out, Ferguson at Aberdeen after a move out, even bloody Kane at Spurs. I'm sure Ali would've been professional enough to see the season out- his fee would only increase & we could plan, identify & close out replacements. But no, Stevie "Trump" Brown is trying to sell us an excellent deal??? C'mon!!! It's shite!!! Next, we'll find out it's in installments & we should be happy with it. Also, SB reckons it "may be over £1.75m with add-ons". What??? It should be £1.75m plus add-ons!!! I reckon we've lost £700-800k on this. Yes, it is a big fricking deal- that's a huge amount for saints. Plus, a lot of walk-ins aren't going to come. For the foreseeable future. Keep trying to sell it Stevie... We aren't mugs. I can understand ST's demonstrating at the Rangers game. SB has 10 days with the international break before that & he'll need every minute to spin his way out.
  12. 6 points
    It would seem racism is A Bad Thing in Scotland unless it’s anti-Irish racism. Then you get a friendly escort from the police. Anyway, I think there’s more chance of me signing for Saints than Griffiths. Can we move on?
  13. 5 points
    Not Kane's best performance by any stretch but I can't believe we're still at the stage of people questioning his place in the team after what he's contributed over the last year. No one's under any illusions that he's ever going to be a 20-goal-a-season striker, but surely everyone can appreciate how important he is to the way we play?
  14. 5 points
    blueheaven

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    We've also signed players of similar backgrounds who have gone on to do very well for us. I'm not sure what level of player people were expecting Saints to sign, given that the transfer window has closed and we basically needed a back-up defender at very short notice. We've ended up bringing a guy in who has years of experience of Scottish football, including over 100 games for the best team in the country, and over 50 caps for Nigeria. That's not a bad CV. If he turns out to be terrible, he won't play much anyway. If he's great, that's fantastic for all of us. Give the guy a chance.
  15. 5 points
    Templar Saint

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Article in Daily Record re Jason Kerr where he said: "It was important for me that St Johnstone got a good fee for me. I was never going to force a move. I'm glad they got money they can use." "It wouldn't have felt right going to another Scottish club, I couldn't have done that to St Johnstone after all the success we had. St Johnstone is all I've known - its my club" Well said young man and you will be welcome back anytime.
  16. 5 points
    rik2304

    Steve Brown

    Takes the covid loan. Prize money from two cups. Season ticket sales go up. Full houses in Europe. Sells McCann and Kerr for a combined £1.8million and is gambling on add ons and blames a 21 year old who's under contract until 2023 as agitating for a move. Backs the double winning manager with Devine, Dendoncker, Muller, Crawford and McPherson. All on loan. Absolutely disgusting. Brown is an utter disgrace.
  17. 5 points
    Cagey

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    30 odd hours to go to the end of the transfer window. Can we not keep this thread on subject & not this inane crap.
  18. 5 points
    Thought MOH put in a superb effort last night.
  19. 4 points
    Griffiths is a sad sad person who seems to have issues and who, so far as I can tell, does absolutely nothing to help himself. He knew exactly what he was doing when he walked over to kick that flare towards the stand, a view shared by a number of Dundee fans who now want to see the back of him. He is on a slippery slope and it is not going to be pleasant to watch his demise, The guy who threw the flare just did something daft in the heat of the moment but to me it was very unpleasant to hear a group of Saints' fans hurling vile abuse at Griffiths which had nothing to do with football. We should leave that sort of thing to the fans of clubs who are often mocked on here for just that sort of behaviour.
  20. 4 points
    He ran all the way from the centre circle to kick it into the stand. Could have caused serious injury & probably should have been arrested. Mind you the moron that threw the flairs should have been arrested as well.
  21. 4 points
    Yes my friend who bought the tickets is working on it. I’m reluctant to get involved as I never purchased them myself….Just got a message now saying Roddy has sorted it. Collecting them from dens
  22. 4 points
    I know, useless. I mean all he's managed in the last eight weeks or so are goals against the likes of Galatasaray and Lask.
  23. 4 points
    chips

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Bbc mom..
  24. 4 points
    RandomGuy

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    I mean, Bryson and Conway signed last Summer and we finished top 6 and won 2 trophies, both in their 30s and regularly played.
  25. 4 points
    Under the circumstances I thought it was a good performance. Muller perhaps showed his inexperience with giving away the penalty, but on the whole I think he's a really impressive young defender and the more he plays, the less likely errors like that will become. Brown also seems to be really growing into the team the more he plays, and I'm glad we put him into the back three to allow Rooney to play in his best position - hopefully we've seen the last of those two playing the other way around. As @Radford 72 says above, we suddenly have a lot of competition for places at the back and that can only be a good thing. Also think MOH deserves a shout-out for the work he's put in this season, which was rewarded with a terrific goal. Just a pity we couldn't cling onto that lead. I know Eetu didn't get long on the pitch but I thought he looked potentially very impressive - eager to get stuck in and confident enough to try that outrageous overhead kick with virtually his first touch (and it wasn't all that far away from hitting the net either). I would like CD to be a bit more pro-active with his subs though. I feel other teams are changing things against us and then we end up having to be reactive. We really went for it at the end of the game on Saturday but it took us a while to make that shift. On the whole I remain positive about the way things are going this season, despite some fairly baffling negativity on here over the last week or so.
  26. 4 points
    Abernethy Saint

    Steve Brown

    Hope he’s not senile. I was behind him in the car queue before the LASK game. His car is bigger than most houses. He had a huge grin on his face. Got waved through with much “Mr Brown, sir”-ing. I told the car park guy “ I’m with Mr Brown”. Turns out the car park guy a) Does not have a sense of humour, and b) Knows a LOT of swear words.
  27. 4 points
    HOODLUM65

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    God help the guys who have come in on loan when they make their first mistake. I can hear the moans now, so & so wouldn't have done this or that. Gie the guys a break. They are all Saints, for the present. C.o.y.s.
  28. 4 points
    Not our usual highlights but something different from our media team
  29. 4 points
    After sleeping on it, I'm less angry and just proud of what we've seen. We went toe to toe with two big big European teams, and with a bit of luck or ref decision here or there the outcomes could have been different. Considering some of the St Johnstobe matches I've been to in my lifetime, the last few months has been the stuff of utter fantasy. I hope the players put an arm around spoony and it doesn't affect him too badly. An adrenaline fueled mistake, move on.
  30. 3 points
    blueheaven

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Don't really see what there is to criticise the player over. He's entitled to want to move, just as Saints would have been entitled to tell him he's welcome to move when a buyer meets our asking price. I expect when our promising young players sign new deals they'll be assured that the club won't stand in their way of progressing if/when the right offer comes in. However, that shouldn't equate to Saints selling them at cut-price. I can't help but feel that Saints have a bit of a reputation for selling players on the cheap, and that's why low bids come in for our players. Steve Brown saying publicly that we'd be looking for around £1.75 million probably didn't help. If McCann had been a Hibs player, they'd have been telling the media they want £5 million for him, and they'd probably have got it.
  31. 3 points
    montrosesaintee

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Does Steve Brown still (as always) have an eye on his own means of escape from his position, and money in the bank will surely make St Johnstone a more desirable enterprise for anyone looking to take it on? Assets who could get injured next week always seem to be second favourite to cash in the tin. I dunno, it's easy to complain and whine, but the club has continued to be in a financially secure position despite the ever increasing gulf in money in professional football between the 'big clubs' and the also rans, and a worldwide pandemic that removed almost all income for the club, both on and off the park. Even if he is looking after number 1, the outcome is still that we'll never be a Dundee/Rangers/Gretna etc. etc. Looking forward to some more fixtures so we can get behind the team again.
  32. 3 points
    Christ irony is lost on you
  33. 3 points
    Average player salaries in the Championship are reported to be £29,000 a week, compared to league one where it is £4,750 a week. What is our pay structure? £2k a week? I'd suggest that increasing his salary from £100,000 a year to £1.5m would be pretty life changing. A 4 year contract - I'd definitely say £6m was life changing!
  34. 3 points
    south inch

    Ticket system

    We have 2,700 season ticket holders and we are surely obliged to plan on the basis that they might all want to attend. Add on say 300 to 500 non ST holders who may wish to attend and the only way to accommodate them is to make the East Saints only. After yesterday now is not the time to pee off our loyal fans any further.
  35. 3 points
    I can hear the FCU voices ringing around the unfortunately, probably emptier stands now "Steve Brown, we've lost McCann, ali McCann, I just don't think you understand, Brown you're neep, you sold him on the cheap, we've lost AliMcCann"
  36. 3 points
    Center Half

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    We have got Cammy Ballantyne, need to let him loose as we did McCann now and see if he grows into it, Probably had a better loan experience than McCann had so now is his time!
  37. 3 points
    MrBored

    Steve Brown

    This is going to sound like I am sticking up for Steve...but some of that doesn't look right. May left for £800k because his agent made clear he wouldn't sign the deal on the table at the time. Robertson was brought in as Brown felt he didn't have the time to run the club and the family business. The 'discussions' for May's return were handled by Vine as his agent....that should be enough to explain that situation! Not sure Wallace should have been kept on...first time I've heard that explaination of his leaving (not saying its not true!). Wright wasn't sacked. We were always going to have players leave for nothing at the end of the season whether we kept McCann and Kerr.
  38. 3 points
    aagb1884

    Steve Brown

    Lovely to be here. Lurking for a while but now pissed off enough to something.
  39. 3 points
    Pat McGroin

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Stuff what he wants. He gets the power in the final year of his contract. We held the power yesterday and folded in half when it absolutely was not required. If Hibs can tell Nisbet he’s not moving even after handing in a transfer request, so can we, or our contracts aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.
  40. 3 points
    R.B.B:- Adz

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    We knew players would be sold but it doesn’t matter what angle you come from, this is bad business. Journalists, players, chairmen, supporters will all wake up to that news an raise and eyebrow. It’s terrible! You just don’t sell your double winning captain who is on the verge of a Scotland cap and your most talented young regular full international player who is tied down to a contract for that sort of money. It’s appalling!!
  41. 3 points
  42. 3 points
    Cagey

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Best wishes Jason,you deserve your move. Thanks for turning down Hibs.
  43. 3 points
    What Brian Easton
  44. 3 points
    I was told he didn’t want to move to Hibs and ruin his relationship with us. Wasn’t really any real career progression. A good season at Wigan and he could move top end of the Chanpionship
  45. 3 points
    Cagey

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    500 k for club captain who should be in international squad. If Saints accept that I will be disappointed.
  46. 3 points
    Stumpy1966

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    Abernethy nothing against your football ability
  47. 3 points
    mainstand

    Saints Summer Transfers 2021

    I am sorry but that must be one of your worst posts ever. I certainly would never like to see my team relegated just because of a dislike for any one player or individual, We supported Riordan when he was at Saints someone that has had a shady past. Robertson when he was at Saints and Alan McGregor when he was with us all had issues.
  48. 3 points
    cristo

    Saints v LASK Thursday 26/08/21

    Pulling Rooney into central defence when Gordon called off was a big mistake for two reasons. One, Roo is not a great defender and two, we lost his attacking threat down the right wing. Muller could easily have slotted in to Gordon's position.
  49. 3 points
    I thought their Asian lad was tremendous. Don’t know where he was from, and didn’t catch his name, but he was everywhere and ran the show.
  50. 3 points
    Ah. They phoned the wrong club, that explains it.