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  1. 13 points
    Smarmy Arab

    Taxi For Davidson

    Looking ominous for Saints, reminds me of when Utd went down. We sold GMS, Armstrong, Shifty, in a quick succession this was compounded by letting go: Fojut, Gardyne, Erskine players who might not be the same class as the A list, but still seasoned top flight performers. Similarly losing Kane an Spoony has been a huge blow, at the worst moment. All is not lost, it’s only half time and if anyone deserves a shot at correcting this it’s CD. Couple of decent signings in Jan and this team can get back to the well drilled performances the coaches instilled so effectively last season. I think the winter break arrived at the right moment for Saints (and United!). so let’s raise a glass (half full) and enjoy New Year! All the best my WAP friends, I hope you and yours are blessed in the coming year! Xxx
  2. 12 points
    blueheaven

    Taxi For Davidson

    New signings or no new signings, for me the Dundee game is Davidson's last chance. We must win that game. If we don't, we'll be even deeper in the sh*t than we are now, but there will still be a slim chance of saving ourselves and the only way of doing that will be to hope for the possible bounce that a new manager might give us. Completely understand that sacking a manager after winning two trophies and signing a new contract is a difficult thing to do - both emotionally and financially. Also understand that our situation is not entirely Davidson's fault. But we're running out of time and the club quite simply has to do whatever it takes to at least try to get us out of this mess. If some of that "rainy day fund" has to be spent on paying off Davidson and getting someone else in, then so be it. It's a colossal waste as we should never, ever have been in this position - but it's where we are and we need to deal with it. The sheer speed at which this collapse has happened is absolutely heartbreaking. More than a decade of hard work from McInnes, Lomas and Wright, building us into a club who not only survived in the Premier but punched well above our weight, winning trophies, finishing Top 6 and playing in Europe season after season after season. Players like Anderson, Millar, Davidson and Mackay wanting to spend their careers here because this was the place to be. And just a few months ago we stood on the verge of stepping up to a completely new level of prestige, excitement and financial wealth. Everything is just being pissed down the drain.
  3. 12 points
    Aitchy

    Taxi For Davidson

    Up until the Motherwell games, I was confident that we would turn things around, however the performances in the past two games have sucked all enthusiasm out of me and its now clear that we are in deep trouble. Given his achievements last season and the fact that changing a manager so close to such a crucial transfer window could be disruptive, I think we should stick with Davidson just now. History has proven over the past few years that clubs who were in a similar position to us just now, who did change their management team, found no real upturn in their fortunes. in fact for many of them it got worse after a change was made. Butcher at Hibs, Mixu at Dundee United and McIntyre at Dundee all examples of that. Last season proved that Callum is a manager that can set up and coach a team well. He needs to become less stubborn and be more flexible with his tactics, but he hasn't just become a poor manager in the space of a few months. I really hope that the club can get players in early in the January window and preferably players on permanent contracts rather than loans. There can be no excuses. I have my concerns about the fact there are four individuals involved in the recruitment process (Callum, Brown, Grieve and Boyd) and given comments on social media there already seems to be grievances between some of the individuals already, but hopefully the individuals can put these aside for the greater good. The big issue we will have is that clubs and agents will know that we are desperate and we will likely have to pay considerably more for any targets that we do have. I dont think the blame for our current situation can be put down to one single person. There has been a number of factors that have led us to where we currently are. Our recruitment should have been better and done far earlier in the summer. We were and still are crying out for better options in an attacking sense. I note that many are pointing the finger at Steve Brown for the way that Kerr and McCann were let go and given the benefit of hindsight I would be interested to hear if he would now change the way he handled that situation. In regards to Kerr, I think it was a no brainer. Given he could have signed a pre contract 6 months later, the deal we got at the time was good. In regards to McCann, we found ourselves in a situation where both the player and agent were pushing the deal, which was understandable given the life changing amounts of money he was being offered. Perhaps we could have stood our ground, but then you are left with an unhappy player and run the risk of a similar situation occurring as did with Danny Griffin who turned down Derby and then got injured and was never the same player again. Throw in the above and the fact that we have a number of players coming to the end of their contracts who look like they would rather be elsewhere, players on short term loans and one or two players whose best day are behind them, then the perfect storm has been created. I actually think the COVID shutdown may benefit us. I had very little confidence that we would take anything out of the three scheduled games and we could well have found ourselves even more detached at the bottom. Hopefully the break allows us to get players in and gives the whole club a chance to reflect on what is going wrong and try to address the issue's. Interesting few weeks ahead.....
  4. 8 points
    Aitchy

    Taxi For Davidson

    I like Callum Davidson. He is a decent guy, was brilliant for us as a player and has given us some magical moments as a manager, but I am struggling to make a defence for him now. The recent form is not acceptable. The lack of willingness to change the shape is indefensible. Giving players like Crawford a 2 and half year deal is just bizarre. I hope we can turn it around and are able to get the players in who can keep us up, but I am struggling to see that happening. We have a number issues facing us in the remaining weeks of the transfer window. Selling clubs know we are desperate and will hike any potential transfer fees. Agents will know we are desperate as well and will try to increase a players wage demands. Finally, how many players will be keen to come to us given our current league position and the very real prospect of relegation. I think we need another 4/5 players in at least. A right back, two energetic midfielders, a replacement for Spoony and another striker. Like @blueheaven states, all of our current problems cant just be laid at Callum Davidsons door. The Chairman and board of directors have questions to answer as well. Why did we not strengthen from a position of strength in the summer? I understand they perhaps had concerns about COVID and the impact that it may have had on our finances, but we are not exactly skint. We were in a position to offer prospective players to sign for the double champions and the opportunity to play European football. Two or three quality additions could have made all the difference.
  5. 8 points
    Evansabove

    Saints January '22 Transfer Activity

    You have to laugh at saints fans . Moan if it’s a loan , moan we’re giving players contracts , moan that it’s a defender , moan that they don’t keep it quiet , moan that the club don’t tell them anything , moan that we don’t have enough midfielders , moan that we don’t have enough attackers , moan that we never preempt a player leaving, moan when do preempt a player leaving . Some motley crue
  6. 7 points
    blueheaven

    RIP

    Is this him? https://necrocanada.com/obituaries-2022/harrysmith-1943-2022/ If it's the same Harry Smith I'm thinking of (and it appears to be from the obituary), he used to email me pretty much every week to discuss Saints when I ran the old Blue Heaven website, before the days of the forum. He seemed like a really lovely guy and his emails always gave me such a laugh. I believe he was @mapleleaf here on the forum? Really sad to hear this news.
  7. 6 points
    I'm pretty confused by CD saying Muller was the one he wanted to keep. If that was the case, why was he regularly not even making the bench? Why was Dendoncker often preferred to him, and yet our preference was apparently to keep Muller and get rid of Dendoncker? I increasingly find CD's comments and actions to be more and more baffling. We certainly look a bit low on numbers at the back now, especially if Ambrose goes.
  8. 6 points
    Bottom line with all of this is that the time to attract talent like Deas and Rudden was last summer when our stock was high and had European games forthcoming.
  9. 6 points
    I see Frazer Wright has shown his reaction.
  10. 6 points
    Being used to an oppressive dictator, austere conditions and subsistence level wages he wouldn't need a settling in period if he joined Saints.
  11. 5 points
    Gas Monkey

    Taxi For Davidson

    Interesting to see in build up to last nights game that the emphasis was on ‘fresh start’, ‘regrouping’, ‘back to basics’ etc. Bottom line is that a poor team can realistically only become less poor and less poor won’t keep us up. As has been said elsewhere, heartbroken that the team I have loved and followed all my life has been let down and short changed by a board with no imagination or ambition. What an opportunity we had last summer, a once in a lifetime chance to push this club to even higher levels but instead we miss the open goals of all open goals. Any investment in the squad now realistically is with a view to securing the play off spot. What a calamity!
  12. 5 points
    For me I honestly thought after the impossible double and European football that this would see our club set up for the next few years both financially and stability wise and that we would of had players wanting to join us, I guess loosing the two boys at the end of the window set the scene for us to go backwards but I didn’t see us going back so quickly. if the club decided to let CD go then it can’t afford to wait for another 6 weeks of these results to act, I guess a team lacking of ideas and tactics and fight doesn’t look good fir any manager. I read on here in another thread someone posted I hope we lose to Kelty, no matter how bad things are or how bad our coaches and players have been performing, I would never hope for our team lose any game.
  13. 5 points
    I've seen some of the spelling attempts at Ciftci but this is the nadir.
  14. 5 points
    Then the xSv numbers would reflect that. In reality though, rather than baseless claims, he was conceding goals that were usually prevented. And a lot of them. Thankfully, he has improved massively in the past 10 months and deserves all the praise he's getting.
  15. 5 points
    This and the lad Ramsay at Aberdeen just confirms how cheap we let Ali McCann go for.
  16. 5 points
    R.B.B:- Adz

    Taxi For Davidson

    ANYTHING beats standing in the freezing cold at East End Park while Shelley Kerr havers utter codswallop followed by every football cliche in the book.
  17. 5 points
    He's also not able to play a full 90 (has he done so since he came here) - doesnt have the legs any more. So if he does play chances are hes off the bench or else going to need subbed around 60-70 min mark. I want the guy to do well and hope he does but he's done nothing to prove it and God knows why we gave him a deal just now when another 6 months loan would have allowed us to firm up an opinion a bit more before gambling a hefty chunk of cash on another 2 years.
  18. 5 points
    I disagree entirely. Kerr linked the goalkeeper/defence to the midfield and McCann linked the midfield to the strikers. (Not to mention the fact that both could pick a pass, tackle and run all day) May, O’Halloran, Kane, Middleton and Viv aren’t world beaters, but they certainly aren’t a relegation strike force. Tactically too much is being asked of them, hence why they are out of position so often. Also the fact that we have such a static midfield, lacking ball carriers, is why May finds himself as a winger even more often than usual, it’s also why O’Halloran is often running at 2/3 defenders from just inside opposition half rather than in and around their 18 yard box and it’s also why Viv was having to come inside his own half to pick the ball up. Butterfield is a start but we need much better options who are willing to carry the ball and also when they find themselves in space, they turn into attacking positions rather than sideways or backwards. In summary, Davidson’s system was built around our three best players, Wotherspoon, Kerr and McCann. They are now gone, yet we are playing the same system. Brutal!!
  19. 4 points
    The manager is finished. The players have announced it over the past weeks and verified the decision today. Omnifukingshambles
  20. 4 points
    Honestly no one either going for promotion or around us are going to sell at anything but way over market value. Again the time to be spending this money to refresh areas was months ago. We are not getting out of this cheaply or we accept the financial loss of going down Right now I would honestly take lumping a wad at wages and get 3 - 4 very high quality loans for the rest of the season
  21. 4 points
    I don't recall many games last year when he was playing to a decent level. I'd keep him as an impact sub.
  22. 4 points
    We just sold a 17 yo who has played 5 games for 800k (2mil in add-ons) it would be rank bad management not use some of that cash to take the opportunity of the divisions top scorer, when we are among the lowest scoring teams in the league. Your hapless board sold two of the most effective and successful players of last season for double than that amount and signed no one, before heading to the relegation spot, I’m guessing the backfiring might be at McD!
  23. 4 points
    Thank you WAP Brexit voters.
  24. 4 points
    jhq

    Saints January '22 Transfer Activity

    A racist Tory. No thanks.
  25. 4 points
    Whatever thistle want for Rudden DON’T pay it he makes Kano and mayo’s look like world beaters.
  26. 4 points
    Abernethy Saint

    The big COVID-19 Shutdown

    Possibly, but I don’t see how eg 5,000 at McD is safe but eg 7,500 is dangerous. It’s quite sweet how some folk (not you MS) think that football attendance levels are or should be a key factor in government COVID decision-making. I feel A&E staff all over the country are unlikely to be particularly concerned what the crowd will be at Livingstone’s next game as they look up to see another dozen unvaccinated, irresponsible fruit loops being wheeled in to cough all over them.
  27. 4 points
    I’m 32
  28. 4 points
  29. 4 points
    What I don't understand about the Crawford deal is the rush to make it long-term. If Davidson thinks there's a player there, why not keep him here on loan until the end of the season with the promise of a deal if he proves he's worth it? Instead we leap into giving a two-and-a-half year contract to a guy who has looked slow, disinterested and doesn't even seem to fit into our system. If this is what he plays like when he's 30 years old and playing for his future, what's he going to be like two years down the line? I said on here previously that if we signed Crawford permanently I'd lose what shred of remaining faith I had left in Davidson, and that's pretty much how I feel now.
  30. 4 points
    I'll certainly not have a hard on when Crawford signs permanently.
  31. 4 points
    saintgscot

    Atholl Henderson

    Must say a very happy retirement to Atholl Henderson. He has done wonders behind the scenes with community development.
  32. 4 points
    We finished in the top 6 in that season (again) so he can't have built that bad a squad. Pretty much every squad has a few signings within it that haven't worked out. If you offered me that Saints squad now I'd bite your hand off. He's also been comfortably our most consistent performer in the RCB position since Kerr left.
  33. 4 points
    Shibbydoo

    Saints v Celtic Boxing Day. 2021

    Best Christmas present would be Callum leaving after this match. He's showed no interest in changing things when it's really ****ing obvious things need to change. No fight whatsoever, can only imagine with horror what the team talk is before a match like this.
  34. 3 points
    Clearly missing one !
  35. 3 points
    Cagey

    Saints January '22 Transfer Activity

    It certainly won't frighten the opposition. I think its a piss take.
  36. 3 points
    I must say I admire the optimism surrounding this signing shown by some on here., can't understand it but must admire it. This is a guy who arrived at Celtic carrying a 6 game suspension and proceeded to make little or no impact despite the service and resources on offer. H e was loaned to anyone who would take him until his 4 year contract was up and now here he is 6 years later having been shown the door by his latest club. He has played little football in the past 6 months so he cannot be match fit. Oh well I hope he proves me wrong. More hopeful about Ali Crawford though.
  37. 3 points
    A GOAL? Five-year contract. Now.
  38. 3 points
    rik2304

    Saints January '22 Transfer Activity

    Hi Tommy! Hiya pal!
  39. 3 points
    That was so him and his agent could get the contract signed.
  40. 3 points
    Of course he is ****ing CM!
  41. 3 points
    Dendoncker was to be expected with Cleary arriving. Presumably if Devine is away we've got a LB/LWB coming in as cover for Booth. Both of them did ok but were never going to push for a first team place. Best of luck to them for the future.
  42. 3 points
    I was amazed to read this about Buck. I then reread his daughter's brilliant tribute to him in which she mentions Buck arguing against a warning for pulling back Aberdeen's then keeper, Bobby Clark. Given that he still had a piece of Clark's jersey in his hand at the time his unblemished record is perhaps not as surprising as it seems.
  43. 3 points
    glenrothes saintee

    Geoff Brown OBE

    Geoff getting a gong in the New Years honours for services to Scottish football and the Perth community.
  44. 3 points
    Cagey

    Taxi For Davidson

    Should be sacked if he signs Crawford I don't know a Saints fan who thinks he would be a good signing.
  45. 3 points
    Randopedia? Randoleaks to come?
  46. 3 points
    Templar Saint

    Atholl Henderson

    Surely with his wealth of footballing knowledge it must be Random Guy!!!!
  47. 3 points
    Cleveland-Saint

    Taxi For Davidson

    jesus, we had/have 5-7 million quid as a war fund and sat on it, and now will be ploughing into it for desperate rescue. If broon had used that right after we won the cups and pre-europe just think where we might be sitting now, used the double cup wins to propel us up a notch. This is what frustrates me the most, prudence fuked us and now wwe will spend anyway
  48. 3 points
    blueheaven

    Saints January '22 Transfer Activity

    Did we ever actually get told how long Ambrose's deal was for? I've been wondering if he's already gone. Seems likely Muller will go too which I think is a bit of a shame - I think he's looked pretty good when he's been used, as has Devine. I suspect Callum will still want to keep MacPherson but guess his injury might put paid to that. I'd like to see Viv kept on but if he's going to spend most of his time on the bench there's probably not much point. For me Butterfield has looked by far the best of the recent additions and I'd be very happy to see him stay. We're going to end up with a completely new midfield and I think he could be a part of that. If Eetu isn't going to get a regular run in the team it might not be the worst idea to put him out on loan to the Championship in the second half of the season. Get him playing some regular games in Scottish football and see what he can do. I'd rather see him used here, though.
  49. 3 points
    Oh random give it a rest. It might have funny once (debatable) but after 600 times it gets a bit boring.
  50. 3 points
    I told the wife saints got beat again, I told her one consolation it’s no costing me twenty odd quid to watch the shit. She told me what’s even better I’m no getting dragged along with you to watch it