Pat McGroin Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I get rather pissed off when people doubt how fantastic Steve Lomas was..... He is responsible for a lot of great stuff...and we as Saintees should be grateful for his time... Using your own analogies, Lomas was like a chip shop pickled onion. Bigger, promised more but in reality just another pickled onion. uphallsaint and The ghost of Jim Morton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Using your own analogies, Lomas was like a chip shop pickled onion. Bigger, promised more but in reality just another pickled onion.with a rotten core (allegedly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uphallsaint Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I get rather pissed off when people doubt how fantastic Steve Lomas was..... He is responsible for a lot of great stuff...and we as Saintees should be grateful for his time... I don't doubt how fantastic Steve Lomas was. He was not fantastic at all. It's easy to say he was responsible for a lot of great stuff. You should really give examples to support your view, stick to Saints related items if you are going to reply, it will be easier for me to take a view on them. Me, I was glad when he left. Brogan, Kevin James Is On Stilts, Jiangsu Sainty and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I have always said I was grateful for what Lomas did for us.Had he come across as a more likeable person than he did he may well have gone on to do great things for Saints. I always got the impression that he was more interested in himself than the good of the club.I still believe he has the potential to be a success if he finds the right club.Anyway we should all remember the greatest thing he did for Saints was give us Sir Tommy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Lomas was too good for St Johnstone. He thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't know if it's been shared on here before or not but this is pretty interesting interview with Tommy for Man City's YouTube channel from a few months ago. Good to hear him talking about his playing days, and they chat about Saints and the cup win. Sounds like he was a great character and leader in the dressing room as a player, and very highly thought of. It would be good to see Saints TV do something similar to this with ex players, send Roddy or somebody out to interview and chew the fat with some more of our own legends! **cough**ARE YOU LISTENING ROSS**cough** PauloPerth and Dave Ferg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Blimey. We all knew he's a great guy. Turns out everyone else does to! Brilliant watch, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Speaks volumes that Lomas is still unemployed imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I don't doubt how fantastic Steve Lomas was. He was not fantastic at all. It's easy to say he was responsible for a lot of great stuff. You should really give examples to support your view, stick to Saints related items if you are going to reply, it will be easier for me to take a view on them. Me, I was glad when he left. Once again the obvious escapes you ...Lomas brought TW ... I for one did not worry one bit when he left and was glad to have TW as Manager .... However Lomas added punch and belief into our team and TW used that experience of working with Lomas to install his method of respect ,graft and a sense of togetherness that was probably lacking but don't underestimate the aggression that lomas installed ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Who is the guy Chappy, great video though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Once again the obvious escapes you ...Lomas brought TW ... I for one did not worry one bit when he left and was glad to have TW as Manager .... However Lomas added punch and belief into our team and TW used that experience of working with Lomas to install his method of respect ,graft and a sense of togetherness that was probably lacking but don't underestimate the aggression that lomas installed ... Lomas shook yer hand then? gingermunkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Sheffield Utd interested allegedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hes not appearing in any of the betting, and their forum doesnt mention him, so I've no idea where you're getting this rumour from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Apparently its in The Sun dave mc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali91 Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lomas did a great job for Saints, TW did a better one. Not sure I get the fascination to belittle Lomas and everything he achieved at Saints, it's extremely easy to credit TW with every good thing in that 18 months but Lomas was the manager and deserves some credit. Zamora Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Who is the guy Chappy, great video though. Had to search that to find out as well, he's Man City's "legendary" old kit man apparently, http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2014/july/chappy-signs-up. sixties saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Tommy Wright is the Messiah. Steve Lomas was just a very naughty boy (allegedly).... 50yrs a Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'd have hoped English club would have learned their lesson after Del and Lomas, even Coyle after a good start. Hands off TW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) do you think it matters to him? https://youtu.be/6kH3wZjT6ew Edited May 26, 2015 by montrosesaintee Jiangsu Sainty, Kevin James Is On Stilts, t.mcneil99 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Potter Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I would have him sign a 40 year contract right now. When he dies he will become the first floating head manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 It's a funny situation, with managers in football these days. Clubs with a settled management team seem few and far between. A lot of this must surely be down to the insecurity of the managers themselves in the job. There seems to be a drive to move to a 'better' club as soon as possible, because in reality the successful career of the average manager is much shorter than that of a footballer. I suppose if a manager fails at a big club, then he can drop down a league or two because that big club is on his CV forever. I get the opposite impression from Tommy, a more traditional attitude to wanting to see the job through. Maybe it's the mindset of a goalkeeper who spent much of his career as second choice at clubs, or injured, and playing the longer game. He got his reward in many ways by playing for N Ireland so many times. Our last few managers, Coyle, McInnes, Lomas, all seemed to be clearly using Saints as a stepping stone to becoming a great manager somewhere bigger. Tommy seems to want to become a great manager for Saints. And why not? Why follow the trends just for the sake of it? byebyedundee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Our last few managers, Coyle, McInnes, Lomas, all seemed to be clearly using Saints as a stepping stone to becoming a great manager somewhere bigger. Tommy seems to want to become a great manager for Saints. And why not? Why follow the trends just for the sake of it? And where are the three of them now? certainly no better off for their stepping stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 If I was being pedantic I'd suggest Del is doing OK and I'm sure Coyle is now very wealthy but that said, I fully agree with your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) And where are the three of them now? certainly no better off for their stepping stone. McInnes is onto a good thing at Aberdeen to be fair, but not the other two. The question is really whether McInnes had to go down south before he went to Aberdeen, did it help at all? He went to Aberdeen at the time of a financial change - they have invested successfully in the club and increased the support again accordingly. It's a success story in the making for many more reasons than McInnes (albeit he deserves credit for the performances this season) Edited May 26, 2015 by montrosesaintee Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Now they are doing so well, it's about bloody time Aberdeen did something about the shocking state of Pittodrie though. HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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