TheYellowBox Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 I think Tommy will bring a couple in during this transfer window, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple go too. Maybe some fring players out on loan. For me, as much as I think Spoony has bags of skill, he is way too inconsistent. Yes, he can swing in a great cross or free kick now and then, but far too often he overhits them or losses the ball in a dangerous place trying to be clever. In a ideal world, he'd stay and be an impact player. Interesting though that's Tommy specifically called out Swanson and Joe. In part probably a message to Brown on Swanson to pull the finger out, but also a message to the likes of Spoony, Liam etc that they need to step it up. Dave Ferg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted December 10, 2016 Report Share Posted December 10, 2016 Wish someone would pay my bar bonuses/Expenses. most people are still waiting for you to get a round in. john.w 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko82 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Anyone know how Craig Thompson is getting on a stranraer? He looked decent for the short run of games after o'halloran left. Might be worth bringing him back in January as another pacy option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Anyone know how Craig Thompson is getting on a stranraer? He looked decent for the short run of games after o'halloran left. Might be worth bringing him back in January as another pacy option Not allowed to play in cup last week so looks like Saints keeping options open. Don't know how he was doing with them though. I think Greg Hurst scored for Berwick yesterday but Hurst doesn't seem to be in goal if he is with East Fife. Jenko82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffsaintandy Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Not allowed to play in cup last week so looks like Saints keeping options open. Don't know how he was doing with them though. I think Greg Hurst scored for Berwick yesterday but Hurst doesn't seem to be in goal if he is with East Fife. Hurst was on the bench against Edinburgh City during the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) most people are still waiting for you to get a round in. Would have got a round in last time I saw you, but for the fact my hands and wrists were swollen, preventing me from getting my wallet out. Now its my wallet that's swollen. At least till I get back from Oz. OK back on track. Only way IMHO that player''s will leave is the "fringe" players might be asking their agents' to find them employment elsewhere. Edited December 11, 2016 by HOODLUM65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 A wee bit of praise for Spoony on the bbc - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38289574 "David Wotherspoon caught my eye on Saturday in an impressively-organised St Johnstone display against Aberdeen at Pittodrie. Not just because he rattled a late free-kick against the inside of the post, although it was a brilliant strike and just a fraction away from winning all three points for the Perth team. Nor because Wotherspoon was notching up a milestone for Saints - a 150th appearance for his hometown team. No, it was his overall performance that grabbed my attention. An attacking midfielder by trade, he was diligent in his defensive duties, constantly stemming the attacking flow of Aberdeen left-back Graeme Shinnie. Wotherspoon was impressive going forward as well and was unlucky not to hammer home a set-piece match-winner." Wee Mental Davie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Only an idiot would let spoony go Havana Saint and Wee Mental Davie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mental Davie Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Spoony can be class on the ball when he has his day and is one of the more creative players within the group of players, so it's a no brainer to keep him in the squad. I reckon we need some fresh legs up the top of the park though. Macca's a valuable player for us so I wouldn't dare let him go, although that being said he's at his peak and has only got a couple more seasons at best given his age. I'm not that confident in Graeme Cummins and feel that he has offered little to nothing in this team. And Kano is a hit or a miss...has his on and off days but improving steadily, so I'd give him more chances to crack it in the league and establish himself as a first team starter. Although that being said, I wouldn't think twice to cart Kano on loan and release Cummins to open up the wage budget (along with Gormley's freed loan wage) and bring in players on pre-contracts who are still relatively young and have experience in the league. Ali Crawford and Liam Boyce (both 25) are Tommy's sort of strikers. He has spoken highly of them when Saints have come up against Hamilton and Ross County and their consistent performances justify all the plaudits. We could be doing with a double swoop up top and freshen things up a bit, especially given we got creative players in Nige, Tade and Fran a couple years back. But loan moves for both MOH and Mayso wouldn't go a miss either (or have I already crossed the line?) Edited December 13, 2016 by Wee Mental Davie David123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 You crossed the line with O'Halloran. Crawford will go to Eng Championship. Would love Boyce here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) There is zero chance of signing Crawford (who isn't much better than Wotherspoon), or Boyce (who earns more than most our squad as it is). Cummins was absolutely superb last season but has never had a decent run of games since his injury, and is clearly struggling for confidence. He was better on Saturday than what he's been, and deserves more of a chance over the next few weeks. Worth noting in his 51 appearances for us he has 23 goals and assists. So, he averages a goal or assist every second game he plays. In MacLeans first 51 games he had 20 goals and assists... Edited December 13, 2016 by RandomGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko82 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 There is zero chance of signing Crawford (who isn't much better than Wotherspoon), or Boyce (who earns more than most our squad as it is). Cummins was absolutely superb last season but has never had a decent run of games since his injury, and is clearly struggling for confidence. He was better on Saturday than what he's been, and deserves more of a chance over the next few weeks. Worth noting in his 51 appearances for us he has 23 goals and assists. So, he averages a goal or assist every second game he plays. In MacLeans first 51 games he had 20 goals and assists... Thought Cummins was unlucky not to score v ICT and probably missing two gilt edged chances won't have improved his confidence unfortunately as there is a decent striker in there. A run of games is required as he can be a real option up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is Ali Crawford not a midfielder? MR Doom - So Liam Boyce must be the only player at Ross County who gets paid if he is on as much as our whole squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is Ali Crawford not a midfielder? MR Doom - So Liam Boyce must be the only player at Ross County who gets paid if he is on as much as our whole squad If I meant Boyce earned as much as our whole squad, I'd have used the word "combined".. Hes one of Countys highest earners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Considering that TW said that County blew us out of the water financially to sign bloody Brian Graham.......I'd be tempted to agree with RandomGuy on this one tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Have to agree about Cummins as stated previously by myself played well until he got his new contract and has never performed to that level since can see why he has been released at a few clubs,tommy has a nightmare Kane getting there works his socks off Cummins not good enough and macca brilliant but the man is not getting any younger Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The sheer number of players County have signed over the last five seasons shows how big their budget is in comparison. Would be hard to argue against the assumption of Random on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Boyce would be a good signing but doubt if we could afford him & doubt he would come. Mind you having said that it may be time for us to invest in a proven player rather than wasting money on 6 or more signings every season who never make it & just cost a wage. After 4/5 seasons we still have the same team ,more or less. Wee Mental Davie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Unless Ross County are blatantly fiddling their accounts they pay nearly 50% less than Saints on wages etc per player according to the accounts lodged with the SPL so somebody must be telling porkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 They are bankrolled by a rich guy, aren't they? Some of the wages might be getting paid under other headings, player sponsorship or such, from his own pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Unless Ross County are blatantly fiddling their accounts they pay nearly 50% less than Saints on wages etc per player according to the accounts lodged with the SPL so somebody must be telling porkies. Accountants will produce the figures you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Unless Ross County are blatantly fiddling their accounts they pay nearly 50% less than Saints on wages etc per player according to the accounts lodged with the SPL so somebody must be telling porkies. Davies, Burke and Boyce are three that would be amongst our highest earners, if not the highest. The likes of Fox, Mcevely, Gardens, Schalke and Curran are all decent wages too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieffsaintandy Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Davies, Burke and Boyce are three that would be amongst our highest earners, if not the highest. The likes of Fox, Mcevely, Gardens, Schalke and Curran are all decent wages too What's the figures? would be interested to see what their basic is, what sort of bonus are built in for staying up or a top six finish and how does it compare to Saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The young guy Hyppolite?? at Falkirk always looks any time I've seen him. Decent option when Danny leaves for Hibs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David123 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The young guy Hyppolite?? at Falkirk always looks any time I've seen him. Decent option when Danny leaves for Hibs Don't most players look? Although it didn't look like it, even Iwelumo looks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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